Best imaging software for SATA

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
<johnm160.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
 >currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging software
 >is?
 >
 >Thanks
 >
No issues using Acronis with my P4C800E-Deluxe XP/SP2 and WD Raptor
74g SATA system. Can't speak about any of the other imaging programs
out there.

Ender

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

I a would recommend Ghost 9 - which has nothing in common with
previous versions.

"Ender" <enderwiggin3rd RemoveThis @SBhotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
rolvp0dugugv0hi8qqi5uh20kvsabpn25l RemoveThis @4ax.com...
 > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
 > <johnm160 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
  >>currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging
  >>software
  >>is?
  >>
  >>Thanks
  >>
 > No issues using Acronis with my P4C800E-Deluxe XP/SP2 and WD Raptor
 > 74g SATA system. Can't speak about any of the other imaging programs
 > out there.
 >
 > Ender
 >
 > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
 > nothing." Edmund Burke<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:55:11 +0200, "Thomas Wendell"
<tumppiw_NOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >These products are gets the the most acclaim on these groups:
 >BootItNG (www.bootitng.com) has a full function trial version
 >Acrinis TrueImage (www.acronis.com) has a 15-day trial version (will not
 >restore)
 >Symantec/Norton Ghost 9.0
 >(http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/ ) (includes version
 >2003)

Acronis won some Editor's Choice awards when Drive Image got a little
long in the tooth. I switched to it, but I can't recommend it. It
seems to be getting flakier and less stable with newer versions. I'm
now back to Norton Ghost 9 which, by the way, is absolutely nothing
but a rebadged version of PowerQuest's (now owned by Symantec) V2i
Protector Desktop. Nevertheless, it seems to work a little more
reliably for me than Acronis True Image 8. The latter is frequently
giving cryptic failure messages, too frequently requiring
reinstallation, and even in the latest build is incapable of
automatically splitting image files into parts that are correctly
sized for burning onto DVD for off-site storage. There is a lot of
really sloppy irresponsible programming in True Image, and it's
getting worse.
Ron<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:47:22 -0500, Ender
<enderwiggin3rd DeleteThis @SBhotmail.com> wrote:

 >On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
 ><johnm160 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
  >>currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging software
  >>is?
  >>
  >>Thanks
  >>

Drive Image 7 gave me a real fright when I needed to use it. I had a
hard disk failure on my system drive, but thought I was OK because I
had backup images. After booting from the recovery CD (PQRE) I tried
to run a restore but it told me my backup images were corrupt! This
was despite my verifying the images after creation. It turned out that
under PQRE it would not deal correctly with the compression system
used by DI7. The solution was to install a temporary verion of XP so I
could access the backup image files, then installed DI7, then
re-exported the backup image in uncompressed format. Re-boot from the
CD and restored the original image (it was happy with the uncompressed
files) by over-writing the temporary XP installation.

Before I figured that one out I had moved the new replacement disk
over to another computer temporarily, also with DI7 installed where I
keep another copy of the backup image on it's local hard drive (yeah,
I try to be safe...) and tried to restore the drive from there. DI7
restore seemed to go normally, then at the end it said 'resizing file
system'. Funny I thought - why is it doing that? So I left it to it
for a while. Came back to it and not only was the restored image
corrupt it had also WIPED the system disk on my second computer. Grrr!
No way should it have touched that drive.

That's the short story, you can maybe imagine how long it took to work
out what the problem was in the first place... I was very fortunate
to finally get the system back via the uncompressed images. Whether
Ghost9 is any better I do not know but I'm very wary of drive image
programs.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

Ron,
I suggest you email Acronis support with your problems. They were very
responsive to my problems in getting my Silicone Image 3112 Raid controller
problem fixed.
They even gave me a free copy of True Image 8 for my trouble and working with
them.

Lee

 >Subject: Re: Best imaging software for SATA
 >From: Milleron millerdot90.DeleteThis@SPAMlessosu.edu
 >Date: 11/20/2004 11:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
 >Message-id: <44qup05fk19evmqrm2ojsbb3d67e9rhgt5.DeleteThis@4ax.com>
 >
 >On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:55:11 +0200, "Thomas Wendell"
 ><tumppiw_NOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>These products are gets the the most acclaim on these groups:
  >>BootItNG (www.bootitng.com) has a full function trial version
  >>Acrinis TrueImage (www.acronis.com) has a 15-day trial version (will not
  >>restore)
  >>Symantec/Norton Ghost 9.0
  >>(http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/ ) (includes version
  >>2003)
 >
 >Acronis won some Editor's Choice awards when Drive Image got a little
 >long in the tooth. I switched to it, but I can't recommend it. It
 >seems to be getting flakier and less stable with newer versions. I'm
 >now back to Norton Ghost 9 which, by the way, is absolutely nothing
 >but a rebadged version of PowerQuest's (now owned by Symantec) V2i
 >Protector Desktop. Nevertheless, it seems to work a little more
 >reliably for me than Acronis True Image 8. The latter is frequently
 >giving cryptic failure messages, too frequently requiring
 >reinstallation, and even in the latest build is incapable of
 >automatically splitting image files into parts that are correctly
 >sized for burning onto DVD for off-site storage. There is a lot of
 >really sloppy irresponsible programming in True Image, and it's
 >getting worse.
 >Ron
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

Thanks, that is not the same as Ghost 2003 is it?


"FG" <nono.RemoveThis@nowhere.ca> wrote in message
news:_eWnd.63109$Uy.1911986@weber.videotron.net...
 >I a would recommend Ghost 9 - which has nothing in common with
 > previous versions.
 >
 > "Ender" <enderwiggin3rd.RemoveThis@SBhotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
 > rolvp0dugugv0hi8qqi5uh20kvsabpn25l.RemoveThis@4ax.com...
  >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
  >> <johnm160.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >>
   >>>I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
   >>>currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging
   >>>software
   >>>is?
   >>>
   >>>Thanks
   >>>
  >> No issues using Acronis with my P4C800E-Deluxe XP/SP2 and WD Raptor
  >> 74g SATA system. Can't speak about any of the other imaging programs
  >> out there.
  >>
  >> Ender
  >>
  >> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
  >> nothing." Edmund Burke
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

I have used Drive Image 7 and it was fine. What type of drives are you
using?



"ChrisH" <chrish.TakeThisOut@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:54q0q0tr9gfmipn1hmljhrprb5ds5l2fjb@4ax.com...
 > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:47:22 -0500, Ender
 > <enderwiggin3rd.TakeThisOut@SBhotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
  >><johnm160.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >>
   >>>I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
   >>>currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging
   >>>software
   >>>is?
   >>>
   >>>Thanks
   >>>
 >
 > Drive Image 7 gave me a real fright when I needed to use it. I had a
 > hard disk failure on my system drive, but thought I was OK because I
 > had backup images. After booting from the recovery CD (PQRE) I tried
 > to run a restore but it told me my backup images were corrupt! This
 > was despite my verifying the images after creation. It turned out that
 > under PQRE it would not deal correctly with the compression system
 > used by DI7. The solution was to install a temporary verion of XP so I
 > could access the backup image files, then installed DI7, then
 > re-exported the backup image in uncompressed format. Re-boot from the
 > CD and restored the original image (it was happy with the uncompressed
 > files) by over-writing the temporary XP installation.
 >
 > Before I figured that one out I had moved the new replacement disk
 > over to another computer temporarily, also with DI7 installed where I
 > keep another copy of the backup image on it's local hard drive (yeah,
 > I try to be safe...) and tried to restore the drive from there. DI7
 > restore seemed to go normally, then at the end it said 'resizing file
 > system'. Funny I thought - why is it doing that? So I left it to it
 > for a while. Came back to it and not only was the restored image
 > corrupt it had also WIPED the system disk on my second computer. Grrr!
 > No way should it have touched that drive.
 >
 > That's the short story, you can maybe imagine how long it took to work
 > out what the problem was in the first place... I was very fortunate
 > to finally get the system back via the uncompressed images. Whether
 > Ghost9 is any better I do not know but I'm very wary of drive image
 > programs.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

I have never heard of that one before.



"Ender" <enderwiggin3rd RemoveThis @SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rolvp0dugugv0hi8qqi5uh20kvsabpn25l@4ax.com...
 > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
 > <johnm160 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
  >>currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging
  >>software
  >>is?
  >>
  >>Thanks
  >>
 > No issues using Acronis with my P4C800E-Deluxe XP/SP2 and WD Raptor
 > 74g SATA system. Can't speak about any of the other imaging programs
 > out there.
 >
 > Ender
 >
 > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
 > nothing." Edmund Burke<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

John McCoy wrote:
 > I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
 > currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging software
 > is?
 >
 > Thanks

I suggest Ghost 9, or Drive Image 7.

Where I work there have been Ghost vs. Drive Image flame wars for years.
I always preferred the Drive Image user interface, and found the two
products provided similar functionality, but leapfrogged each other with
each new version released.

Drive Image 7 finally eliminated the last of the annoyances - the need
to boot DOS to back up a system partition (can now be scheduled and run
without shutting down Windows), and the requirement to create DOS boot
disks which were frequently hardware-specific (DI7 can boot from the
product CD and configure networking without user intervention - required
only for system partition restores or after drive failure).

I guess Drive Image wins the flame wars - Symantec bought Powerquest,
and Ghost 9 is Drive Image 7 with incremental image backup functionality
added. The traditional Ghost user interface is no more...

P2B<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

Thanks P2B. I will end up with Drive Image 7 since I have used that for
years and been quite happy with it.

I wonder how it will do with SCSI and SATA drives. It always worked well
with my SCSI's.

John



"P2B" <p2b.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:tC9od.13298$Le1.182958@news20.bellglobal.com...
 >
 >
 > John McCoy wrote:
  >> I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
  >> currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging
  >> software is?
  >>
  >> Thanks
 >
 > I suggest Ghost 9, or Drive Image 7.
 >
 > Where I work there have been Ghost vs. Drive Image flame wars for years. I
 > always preferred the Drive Image user interface, and found the two
 > products provided similar functionality, but leapfrogged each other with
 > each new version released.
 >
 > Drive Image 7 finally eliminated the last of the annoyances - the need to
 > boot DOS to back up a system partition (can now be scheduled and run
 > without shutting down Windows), and the requirement to create DOS boot
 > disks which were frequently hardware-specific (DI7 can boot from the
 > product CD and configure networking without user intervention - required
 > only for system partition restores or after drive failure).
 >
 > I guess Drive Image wins the flame wars - Symantec bought Powerquest, and
 > Ghost 9 is Drive Image 7 with incremental image backup functionality
 > added. The traditional Ghost user interface is no more...
 >
 > P2B<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

I have had the best luck with Ghost 2003.

Bob


"LeeBos" <leebos DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041121084355.08198.00001081@mb-m04.aol.com...
 > Ron,
 > I suggest you email Acronis support with your problems. They were very
 > responsive to my problems in getting my Silicone Image 3112 Raid
controller
 > problem fixed.
 > They even gave me a free copy of True Image 8 for my trouble and working
with
 > them.
 >
 > Lee
 >
  > >Subject: Re: Best imaging software for SATA
  > >From: Milleron millerdot90 DeleteThis @SPAMlessosu.edu
  > >Date: 11/20/2004 11:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
  > >Message-id: <44qup05fk19evmqrm2ojsbb3d67e9rhgt5 DeleteThis @4ax.com>
  > >
  > >On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:55:11 +0200, "Thomas Wendell"
  > ><tumppiw_NOSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
  > >
   > >>These products are gets the the most acclaim on these groups:
   > >>BootItNG (www.bootitng.com) has a full function trial version
   > >>Acrinis TrueImage (www.acronis.com) has a 15-day trial version (will not
   > >>restore)
   > >>Symantec/Norton Ghost 9.0
   > >>(http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/ ) (includes version
   > >>2003)
  > >
  > >Acronis won some Editor's Choice awards when Drive Image got a little
  > >long in the tooth. I switched to it, but I can't recommend it. It
  > >seems to be getting flakier and less stable with newer versions. I'm
  > >now back to Norton Ghost 9 which, by the way, is absolutely nothing
  > >but a rebadged version of PowerQuest's (now owned by Symantec) V2i
  > >Protector Desktop. Nevertheless, it seems to work a little more
  > >reliably for me than Acronis True Image 8. The latter is frequently
  > >giving cryptic failure messages, too frequently requiring
  > >reinstallation, and even in the latest build is incapable of
  > >automatically splitting image files into parts that are correctly
  > >sized for burning onto DVD for off-site storage. There is a lot of
  > >really sloppy irresponsible programming in True Image, and it's
  > >getting worse.
  > >Ron
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

Does it work well with SATA and SCSI?

John



"Bob" <bobd2000.TakeThisOut@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:IN8od.3394605$yk.526136@news.easynews.com...
 >I have had the best luck with Ghost 2003.
 >
 > Bob
 >
 >
 > "LeeBos" <leebos.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
 > news:20041121084355.08198.00001081@mb-m04.aol.com...
  >> Ron,
  >> I suggest you email Acronis support with your problems. They were very
  >> responsive to my problems in getting my Silicone Image 3112 Raid
 > controller
  >> problem fixed.
  >> They even gave me a free copy of True Image 8 for my trouble and working
 > with
  >> them.
  >>
  >> Lee
  >>
   >> >Subject: Re: Best imaging software for SATA
   >> >From: Milleron millerdot90.TakeThisOut@SPAMlessosu.edu
   >> >Date: 11/20/2004 11:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
   >> >Message-id: <44qup05fk19evmqrm2ojsbb3d67e9rhgt5.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>
   >> >
   >> >On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:55:11 +0200, "Thomas Wendell"
   >> ><tumppiw_NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   >> >
   >> >>These products are gets the the most acclaim on these groups:
   >> >>BootItNG (www.bootitng.com) has a full function trial version
   >> >>Acrinis TrueImage (www.acronis.com) has a 15-day trial version (will
   >> >>not
   >> >>restore)
   >> >>Symantec/Norton Ghost 9.0
   >> >>(http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/ ) (includes version
   >> >>2003)
   >> >
   >> >Acronis won some Editor's Choice awards when Drive Image got a little
   >> >long in the tooth. I switched to it, but I can't recommend it. It
   >> >seems to be getting flakier and less stable with newer versions. I'm
   >> >now back to Norton Ghost 9 which, by the way, is absolutely nothing
   >> >but a rebadged version of PowerQuest's (now owned by Symantec) V2i
   >> >Protector Desktop. Nevertheless, it seems to work a little more
   >> >reliably for me than Acronis True Image 8. The latter is frequently
   >> >giving cryptic failure messages, too frequently requiring
   >> >reinstallation, and even in the latest build is incapable of
   >> >automatically splitting image files into parts that are correctly
   >> >sized for burning onto DVD for off-site storage. There is a lot of
   >> >really sloppy irresponsible programming in True Image, and it's
   >> >getting worse.
   >> >Ron
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
  >>
  >>
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA 

No, Ghost 2003 comes with Ghost 9.0 on a separate CD


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"John McCoy" <johnm160.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestissä
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 > Thanks, that is not the same as Ghost 2003 is it?
 >
 >
 > "FG" <nono.TakeThisOut@nowhere.ca> wrote in message
 > news:_eWnd.63109$Uy.1911986@weber.videotron.net...
  > >I a would recommend Ghost 9 - which has nothing in common with
  > > previous versions.
  > >
  > > "Ender" <enderwiggin3rd.TakeThisOut@SBhotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
  > > rolvp0dugugv0hi8qqi5uh20kvsabpn25l.TakeThisOut@4ax.com...
   > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
   > >> <johnm160.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >>>I am planning to get an Asus P4C800E Deluxe and an SATA drive, I am
   > >>>currently running a scsi set up and wondering what the best imaging
   > >>>software
   > >>>is?
   > >>>
   > >>>Thanks
   > >>>
   > >> No issues using Acronis with my P4C800E-Deluxe XP/SP2 and WD Raptor
   > >> 74g SATA system. Can't speak about any of the other imaging programs
   > >> out there.
   > >>
   > >> Ender
   > >>
   > >> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
   > >> nothing." Edmund Burke
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best imaging software for SATA