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norman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:08 am
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I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port, which
was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and use it as
a printer server or printer switch.

I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will the
primary router..

I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN IP
address on Router 2.

I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer or
able to print.



Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help



Norman

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:05 pm
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norman wrote:
> I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port, which
> was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and use it as
> a printer server or printer switch.
>
> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will the
> primary router..
>
> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
> ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN IP
> address on Router 2.
>
> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer or
> able to print.
>
>
>
> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help
>
>
>
> Norman
>
>

I've got two netgear routers setup where one acts as the gateway and the
other is in the far end of the house where I have a data port and it
supplies wireless access. I used a regular straight through cable, not a
crossover. Why did you use a crossover? I assigned the router an IP
address on the network for its internet address AND its LAN address. I
set its DNS to the primary router. All works well for wired and wireless
connections on it (and on the non-wireless primary router).

Ari

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:05 pm
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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> norman wrote:
>> I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port,
>> which was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and
>> use it as a printer server or printer switch.
>>
>> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will
>> the primary router..
>>
>> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
>> ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN IP
>> address on Router 2.
>>
>> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer or
>> able to print.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help
>>
>>
>>
>> Norman
>>
>>
>
> I've got two netgear routers setup where one acts as the gateway and the
> other is in the far end of the house where I have a data port and it
> supplies wireless access. I used a regular straight through cable, not a
> crossover. Why did you use a crossover? I assigned the router an IP
> address on the network for its internet address AND its LAN address. I set
> its DNS to the primary router. All works well for wired and wireless
> connections on it (and on the non-wireless primary router).
>
> Ari
>
>

Thanks for the info.

Why did you use a crossover?
D-link routers don't have a uplink port. Therefore, a crossover cable must
be used as that link, using one of the LAN ports.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:05 pm
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norman wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus.TakeThisOut@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:fni8ut$2ctq$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> norman wrote:
>>> I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port,
>>> which was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and
>>> use it as a printer server or printer switch.
>>>
>>> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will
>>> the primary router..
>>>
>>> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
>>> ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN IP
>>> address on Router 2.
>>>
>>> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer or
>>> able to print.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Norman
>>>
>>>
>> I've got two netgear routers setup where one acts as the gateway and the
>> other is in the far end of the house where I have a data port and it
>> supplies wireless access. I used a regular straight through cable, not a
>> crossover. Why did you use a crossover? I assigned the router an IP
>> address on the network for its internet address AND its LAN address. I set
>> its DNS to the primary router. All works well for wired and wireless
>> connections on it (and on the non-wireless primary router).
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Why did you use a crossover?
> D-link routers don't have a uplink port. Therefore, a crossover cable must
> be used as that link, using one of the LAN ports.

My secondary (wireless) router doesn't have an uplink port either, and
there's even a switch in between the two routers. I'm assuming from what
you've written above that you are able to access the router's web
configuration settings?

Ari

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:43 pm
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To make this more simple, I probalably should dump the second router and
purchase a network printer. I did not realize the configuration would be
such a hassle.
As I metioned the second router ( DI-704P) has a parellel printer port and
the only device on this router is a parellel printer. I'm ok at building
PC's but network stuff I'm lost. My entire network is wired, no wirless
devices
I currntly have the DGL-4100 woking with the LAN and internet.
..

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus RemoveThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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> norman wrote:
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus RemoveThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:fni8ut$2ctq$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>> norman wrote:
>>>> I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port,
>>>> which was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and
>>>> use it as a printer server or printer switch.
>>>>
>>>> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will
>>>> the primary router..
>>>>
>>>> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
>>>> ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN
>>>> IP address on Router 2.
>>>>
>>>> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer
>>>> or able to print.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I've got two netgear routers setup where one acts as the gateway and the
>>> other is in the far end of the house where I have a data port and it
>>> supplies wireless access. I used a regular straight through cable, not a
>>> crossover. Why did you use a crossover? I assigned the router an IP
>>> address on the network for its internet address AND its LAN address. I
>>> set its DNS to the primary router. All works well for wired and wireless
>>> connections on it (and on the non-wireless primary router).
>>>
>>> Ari
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> Why did you use a crossover?
>> D-link routers don't have a uplink port. Therefore, a crossover cable
>> must be used as that link, using one of the LAN ports.
>
> My secondary (wireless) router doesn't have an uplink port either, and
> there's even a switch in between the two routers. I'm assuming from what
> you've written above that you are able to access the router's web
> configuration settings?
>
> Ari
>
> --
> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/
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pcbldrNinetyEight

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:04 pm
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"norman" <home.DeleteThis@home.net> wrote in
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<snip>

> As I metioned the second router ( DI-704P) has a parellel printer port
> and the only device on this router is a parellel printer.

Link to DI-704P:
http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=2&Sub2=4&PID=54

This page speaks of "printer software" that allows users to print to the
print server port. IMO it is necessary to understand how this software
works if you want to use this router as a print server. Recommend you
read the manual linked to that page. A good book might help too. I
recommend "Absolute Beginners Guide to Home Networking" which I found at
my local public library.

A crossover cable may not be necessary since LAN ports on some D-Link
products are also uplink ports too.

I am aware of two possible scenarios for using a printer over a home
network. One is to use a network printer which has a LAN port and built
in IP address or you may use an ordinary printer and enable "file and
printer sharing" in network properties and share the printer with other
PC's on the network. The advantage of a network printer with LAN port
and IP is that you can turn on just the printer and the computer you
wish to print from and you're ready to print. A shared printer however
is only available through the network when the PC it is physically
connected to is turned on.

> My entire network is wired,
> no wirless devices
> I currntly have the DGL-4100 woking with the LAN and internet.

Then IMO you are close to your goal.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:04 pm
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norman wrote:
> To make this more simple, I probalably should dump the second router and
> purchase a network printer. I did not realize the configuration would be
> such a hassle.
> As I metioned the second router ( DI-704P) has a parellel printer port and
> the only device on this router is a parellel printer. I'm ok at building
> PC's but network stuff I'm lost. My entire network is wired, no wirless
> devices
> I currntly have the DGL-4100 woking with the LAN and internet.
> .

You're going to need to configure the DI-704P directly from a computer
(not through the other router) so it doesn't grab the same IP address
automatically as the DGL-4000. You should be able to do this WITHOUT
using a crossover cable (I still think you don't need a crossover cable
at all, but you certainly don't at this stage). Set it up and make sure
it has a different IP address than the DGL-4000.

>
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:fnikp2$2gut$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>> norman wrote:
>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fni8ut$2ctq$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>> norman wrote:
>>>>> I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port,
>>>>> which was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and
>>>>> use it as a printer server or printer switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will
>>>>> the primary router..
>>>>>
>>>>> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
>>>>> ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN
>>>>> IP address on Router 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer
>>>>> or able to print.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I've got two netgear routers setup where one acts as the gateway and the
>>>> other is in the far end of the house where I have a data port and it
>>>> supplies wireless access. I used a regular straight through cable, not a
>>>> crossover. Why did you use a crossover? I assigned the router an IP
>>>> address on the network for its internet address AND its LAN address. I
>>>> set its DNS to the primary router. All works well for wired and wireless
>>>> connections on it (and on the non-wireless primary router).
>>>>
>>>> Ari
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> Why did you use a crossover?
>>> D-link routers don't have a uplink port. Therefore, a crossover cable
>>> must be used as that link, using one of the LAN ports.
>> My secondary (wireless) router doesn't have an uplink port either, and
>> there's even a switch in between the two routers. I'm assuming from what
>> you've written above that you are able to access the router's web
>> configuration settings?
>>
>> Ari
>>


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:35 pm
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"pcbldrNinetyEight" <pcbldrninetyeight.com> wrote in message
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> "norman" <home.TakeThisOut@home.net> wrote in
> news:Sy9nj.14963$OC1.8552@newsfe20.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>> As I metioned the second router ( DI-704P) has a parellel printer port
>> and the only device on this router is a parellel printer.
>
> Link to DI-704P:
> http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=2&Sub2=4&PID=54
>
> This page speaks of "printer software" that allows users to print to the
> print server port. IMO it is necessary to understand how this software
> works if you want to use this router as a print server. Recommend you
> read the manual linked to that page. A good book might help too. I
> recommend "Absolute Beginners Guide to Home Networking" which I found at
> my local public library.
>
> A crossover cable may not be necessary since LAN ports on some D-Link
> products are also uplink ports too.
>
> I am aware of two possible scenarios for using a printer over a home
> network. One is to use a network printer which has a LAN port and built
> in IP address or you may use an ordinary printer and enable "file and
> printer sharing" in network properties and share the printer with other
> PC's on the network. The advantage of a network printer with LAN port
> and IP is that you can turn on just the printer and the computer you
> wish to print from and you're ready to print. A shared printer however
> is only available through the network when the PC it is physically
> connected to is turned on.
>
>> My entire network is wired,
>> no wirless devices
>> I currntly have the DGL-4100 woking with the LAN and internet.
>
> Then IMO you are close to your goal.
>
> --
> pcbldrNinetyEight

Thanks for the info......

The 704P WAS my primary router before I upgraded, it worked great for the
about two years or so. The router started dropping connection and became
difficult to reset. I have the CD with the printer software. You brought up
a good point...Is the sofware going to work as a second router. I won't get
a change to do any thing until this weekend...Sad

I'll track down good book on networks...I have have one here some where?!?!
..

The deeper I get into this...the better a network printer looks!!

again thanks
Norman
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:50 pm
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"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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> norman wrote:
>> To make this more simple, I probalably should dump the second router and
>> purchase a network printer. I did not realize the configuration would be
>> such a hassle.
>> As I metioned the second router ( DI-704P) has a parellel printer port
>> and the only device on this router is a parellel printer. I'm ok at
>> building PC's but network stuff I'm lost. My entire network is wired, no
>> wirless devices
>> I currntly have the DGL-4100 woking with the LAN and internet.
>> .
>
> You're going to need to configure the DI-704P directly from a computer
> (not through the other router) so it doesn't grab the same IP address
> automatically as the DGL-4000. You should be able to do this WITHOUT using
> a crossover cable (I still think you don't need a crossover cable at all,
> but you certainly don't at this stage). Set it up and make sure it has a
> different IP address than the DGL-4000.

I tryed to set it up yesterday....at one point I could see and access both
routers on the network. I use a standard cat cable. When I added the IP
address on PC1 I lost the 4100. For now, I'm back with just the 4100.
sry....I won't get another chance to work on it until this weekend. I
really appreciate your time and assistance

thanks
Norman




>>
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:fnikp2$2gut$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>> norman wrote:
>>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus DeleteThis @_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fni8ut$2ctq$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>>> norman wrote:
>>>>>> I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port,
>>>>>> which was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router
>>>>>> and use it as a printer server or printer switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and
>>>>>> will the primary router..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the
>>>>>> LAN ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a
>>>>>> LAN IP address on Router 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any
>>>>>> computer or able to print.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would
>>>>>> help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got two netgear routers setup where one acts as the gateway and
>>>>> the other is in the far end of the house where I have a data port and
>>>>> it supplies wireless access. I used a regular straight through cable,
>>>>> not a crossover. Why did you use a crossover? I assigned the router an
>>>>> IP address on the network for its internet address AND its LAN
>>>>> address. I set its DNS to the primary router. All works well for wired
>>>>> and wireless connections on it (and on the non-wireless primary
>>>>> router).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ari
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>
>>>> Why did you use a crossover?
>>>> D-link routers don't have a uplink port. Therefore, a crossover cable
>>>> must be used as that link, using one of the LAN ports.
>>> My secondary (wireless) router doesn't have an uplink port either, and
>>> there's even a switch in between the two routers. I'm assuming from what
>>> you've written above that you are able to access the router's web
>>> configuration settings?
>>>
>>> Ari
>>>
>
>
> --
> spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply
> Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant. Please
> volunteer to be a marrow donor and literally save someone's life:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:15 pm
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Sry for the delay...

Which router would be used as the LAN? Router 1 (4100) prefered, or router
2 (704P)

"norman" <home.RemoveThis@home.net> wrote in message
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>I have a discontinued D-link (DI-704P) router that has parallel port, which
>was set up as a LAN printer. I would like to keep this router and use it as
>a printer server or printer switch.
>
> I have recently purchased a new router (DGL-4100) this router and will the
> primary router..
>
> I have linked the two routers with a crossover cable on one of the LAN
> ports. I have disabled DHCP on router 2. Also, attempted to set a LAN IP
> address on Router 2.
>
> I'm lost at this point... I can't get internet access on any computer or
> able to print.
>
>
>
> Any assistant would be appreciated or point me to a link the would help
>
>
>
> Norman
>
>
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