$mft problem anyone?

External Since: Oct 09, 2004 Posts: 2498

John Doe wrote:
> You need to configure your Microsoft Windows Live Mail settings so
> they properly quote text.

He's using WLM 15, and that's how it works. (I check
the message headers all the time now, looking for WLM 15
users.)

It's not really a good tool for USENET. Going back
to WLM 14 is one solution (it works slightly better),
but a complete switch to a separate tool for USENET
posting is a better choice.

Microsoft is obviously working to mess up our USENET,
on purpose. After all, they had the "OE Quotefix"
solution years ago, for similar stupidity on their part.
They seem to have learned nothing in the interim.

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/description.html

OE Quotefix, doesn't work with WLM. But the software
designer for WLM, should at least have known about it,
and how a previous Microsoft product, failed to comply.

Paul

External Since: Apr 19, 2008 Posts: 3

John Doe wrote:

> You need to configure your Microsoft Windows Live Mail settings so
> they properly quote text.

Not possible when Microsoft "upgraded" to v15 of WLM. Quoting no longer
exists. Microsoft took a poor newsreader and made it worse.

Unless you want to deal scrambled mess of typically top-posted and
unquoted replies with mispositioned signatures (not at the end but in
the middle), you probably should filter out posters using WLM v15, or
later. I highlight them to realize the post will likely be a mess. My
filter looks like:

!setcolor(purple;silver) Header {^X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail (1[5-9]|1[0-9]{2,}|[2-9])}

Matches on versions 15 and up. Besides colorizing them, I could tag
them as Ignored (which means they won't be seen in my default view of
hiding ignored posts). If I just delete them then new posts to them
that show up later would be seen. If I want to ignore a post then it's
likely that I want to ignore the entire [sub]thread thereafter. Until I
decide later to ignore (and hide) the WLM posters as I now do with
Google Groupers, I'll just colorize them for now. Your Xnews client
supports regex, too, so you should be able to define something similar.

Microsoft is highly unlikely to ever fix the problem. They scrambled
away from Usenet. If they were smart, they would eventually just delete
all the NNTP support in WLM and force their users to find another
newsreader.