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johnr_526

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:34 am
Post subject: noob help with Boot.ini, CPU Fan
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I have the SY-P4I875P DRAGON 2 v1.0 Black Label baord w/ P4 3000E
Prescott processor. Have one 80 GB SATA drive (WD Caviar) on SATA 1
and one 30 GB (also WD Caviar, 2001 vintage) on IDE1. The 30 GB IDE
drive is unchanged from an old system (didn't reformat or anything)
and once long ago had Win98 OS on one of its partitions.

XP Home sees the old drive as C: and D:, DVD / CD burner is E: and and
SATA drive is F:, and F: in where XP is loaded.

In Bios (latest off SOYO website, September release) the boot order is
floppy-HD-CD. Also in bios, the SATA drive is selected to be accessed
ahead of the old IDE drive (on the page where you move the drives up &
down in the list).

But when I boot up, I get the "Invalid boot.ini: message.

I've tried the repairs (like the one suggested here,
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330184 ) and
have tried the fix from Settings>System>Advanced>Startup and Recovery>
edit
(described here http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289022
)

. . . but I'm still getting the error. XP boots up fine, eventually.

When I edit boot.ini, it appears it's going to the "old" C: drive. Is
that OK? I tried saving one ("Save As") to the new SATA drive where XP
is installed, and I got more errors.

Pretty sure the F: drive isn't F: so far as bios is concerned. After
the "Invalid boot.ini" error it says it's going to C:\Windows & boots
up (but there is no windows directory anymore on C: a.k.a. the old IDE
drive). When I boot to the XP CD-ROM, it says the boot drive is D: . .
..




Another issue is the CPU fan. I'm using the Intel OEM fan that shipped
w/ the proc, but bios and HW monitor say "0" rpm. I'm plugged into CPu
fan 1 jack on the mobo. I'm getting a reading on the case fan.

Is ~116 deg F normal for the Prescott in this arrangement? At what
temperature should I be alarmed??

TIA for any thoughts or tips,
John R

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Jim B.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:46 am
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johnr_526.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (John) wrote in message news:<d60e7818.0411171134.726c9f04.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...

If the IDE drive still has Win98 on it that could be your problem with
the Invalid boot message. Dual boot systems are possible but with some
of the newer hardware in your system it doesn't have the Win98 drivers
for it on that drive.

The IDE drive letters are left over from your previous use on another
system. Thats why WinXP asigned F: to your SATA drive. To get the C:
asignment for the SATA drive you would have had to delete all the
exsisting partitions on that IDE drive during the setup of WinXP and
then when you chose the SATA drive for the installation of WinXP it
would have set it up for C:.

But then what do you do if that IDE drive had information you didn't
want to loose? Well then you should have installed WinXP without that
IDE drive in the system. With only the one SATA drive it would be
automatic and give the drive the C:. Once you got the system up and
running you could have added the IDE drive and in WinXP reasigned the
IDE's drive letters in Administrative Tools using the Disk Managment
program. In fact WinXP would have seen the drive when you connected it
but becuase it already had C: and D: partitions on it you wouldn't
have been able to access it till you reasigned the drive letters. When
reasigning the drive letters you would have had to change the CD drive
letter as well because the WinXP setup would have made it the D:
drive. So the CD drive would have to be moved to F: (if you still
wanted the two partitions on the IDE drive) first and then you could
set the partitions on the IDE drive to D: and E:

My recommendation for setting up your system would have been different
as well, with the abundance of hard drive connections on your
motherboard I would have in the Chipset Features section set the board
up under IDE1,2 / SATA1,2 to SATA+Sec IDE. Thus turing off the IDE1
functions leaving it totally for the SATA drive and connected the IDE
drive to IDE2 as Master and your CD drive as slave to that.

Also after you had the IDE drive all set up in the system I would copy
all information you wanted to save over to the SATA drive and then
reformatted the IDE drive to NTFS. Then moved the information back to
it. This would get rid of any left over information from the old Win98
installation.

As for your temp reading I had to change my settings from Celsius to
Fahrenheit to check but 116 F is a normal temp for your CPU. I can't
tell you what a high in Fahrenheit would be, but I have my system set
to shut down at 55 C. So if you want to do a little looking up for a
conversion you can.

 > I have the SY-P4I875P DRAGON 2 v1.0 Black Label baord w/ P4 3000E
 > Prescott processor. Have one 80 GB SATA drive (WD Caviar) on SATA 1
 > and one 30 GB (also WD Caviar, 2001 vintage) on IDE1. The 30 GB IDE
 > drive is unchanged from an old system (didn't reformat or anything)
 > and once long ago had Win98 OS on one of its partitions.
 >
 > XP Home sees the old drive as C: and D:, DVD / CD burner is E: and and
 > SATA drive is F:, and F: in where XP is loaded.
 >
 > In Bios (latest off SOYO website, September release) the boot order is
 > floppy-HD-CD. Also in bios, the SATA drive is selected to be accessed
 > ahead of the old IDE drive (on the page where you move the drives up &
 > down in the list).
 >
 > But when I boot up, I get the "Invalid boot.ini: message.
 >
 > I've tried the repairs (like the one suggested here,
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330184" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330184</a> ) and
 > have tried the fix from Settings>System>Advanced>Startup and Recovery>
 > edit
<font color=purple> > (described here <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289022</font" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q289022</font</a>>
 > )
 >
 > . . . but I'm still getting the error. XP boots up fine, eventually.
 >
 > When I edit boot.ini, it appears it's going to the "old" C: drive. Is
 > that OK? I tried saving one ("Save As") to the new SATA drive where XP
 > is installed, and I got more errors.
 >
 > Pretty sure the F: drive isn't F: so far as bios is concerned. After
 > the "Invalid boot.ini" error it says it's going to C:\Windows & boots
 > up (but there is no windows directory anymore on C: a.k.a. the old IDE
 > drive). When I boot to the XP CD-ROM, it says the boot drive is D: . .
 > .
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Another issue is the CPU fan. I'm using the Intel OEM fan that shipped
 > w/ the proc, but bios and HW monitor say "0" rpm. I'm plugged into CPu
 > fan 1 jack on the mobo. I'm getting a reading on the case fan.
 >
 > Is ~116 deg F normal for the Prescott in this arrangement? At what
 > temperature should I be alarmed??
 >
 > TIA for any thoughts or tips,
 > John R<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:53 am
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j.burghdoff RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net (Jim B.) wrote in message news:<a182f0ed.0411200746.3771f01b RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...

 > My recommendation for setting up your system would have been different
 > as well, with the abundance of hard drive connections on your
 > motherboard I would have in the Chipset Features section set the board
 > up under IDE1,2 / SATA1,2 to SATA+Sec IDE. Thus turing off the IDE1
 > functions leaving it totally for the SATA drive and connected the IDE
 > drive to IDE2 as Master and your CD drive as slave to that.
 >

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

My mobo manual says IDE2 is not bootable. If I was connected to IDE2,
would that prevent me from booting to CD?

John R<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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