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NewToFPGA

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:39 pm
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I plugged in ATI video card (all-in-wonder) into my PC. When I
plugged in this card, the onboard VGA port seems like got disabled
automatically. Now, I have problem with the ATI video card. I dont
have any video port working.

How do I get out of this problem and start using my computer again.

thanks.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:12 pm
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The video card is ATI All-in-wonder 9600XT. I dont see in the
instructions asking for additional power supply. There is a wire going
from the video card to the fan on the card.

I see something with 4 pins on the board, these are small pins, does
not seem like one for the psu leads.

It is an AGP card.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:02 am
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"NewToFPGA" <hetzme.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:02a2c9b2-6931-4a33-be0d-2e1e964b748b@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
>I plugged in ATI video card (all-in-wonder) into my PC. When I
> plugged in this card, the onboard VGA port seems like got disabled
> automatically. Now, I have problem with the ATI video card. I dont
> have any video port working.
>
> How do I get out of this problem and start using my computer again.
>
> thanks.

its not one of those cards that requires additional power..........

does it have a socket at the rear end of the card...........if so then you
need to plug a spare 4 pin from psu leads.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:02 am
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"NewToFPGA" <hetzme.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d7768839-dd8a-4e9f-b6c0-166bce7301d1@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> The video card is ATI All-in-wonder 9600XT. I dont see in the
> instructions asking for additional power supply. There is a wire going
> from the video card to the fan on the card.
>
> I see something with 4 pins on the board, these are small pins, does
> not seem like one for the psu leads.
>
> It is an AGP card.

Yes then NO additional power is required..............exchange the board its
probably faulty or U/S.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:13 am
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> Take  out the ATI card and your onboard video will function again.

I did that. Still it does not. It seems like I have to enable it in
the BIOS.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:33 am
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"NewToFPGA" <hetzme.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:02a2c9b2-6931-4a33-be0d-2e1e964b748b@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
>I plugged in ATI video card (all-in-wonder) into my PC. When I
> plugged in this card, the onboard VGA port seems like got disabled
> automatically. Now, I have problem with the ATI video card. I dont
> have any video port working.
>
> How do I get out of this problem and start using my computer again.
>
> thanks.
Take out the ATI card and your onboard video will function again.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:24 am
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>what is the name and model number of the computer.

emachines T2742
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:42 am
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NewToFPGA wrote:
>> Take out the ATI card and your onboard video will function again.
>
> I did that. Still it does not. It seems like I have to enable it in
> the BIOS.

Can you tell us the motherboard make and model number ? Or
if this is a Dell/HP/Gateway/Acer, what is the name and model
number of the computer.

Paul
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:03 pm
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"NewToFPGA" <hetzme.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:02a2c9b2-6931-4a33-be0d-2e1e964b748b@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
>I plugged in ATI video card (all-in-wonder) into my PC. When I
> plugged in this card, the onboard VGA port seems like got disabled
> automatically. Now, I have problem with the ATI video card. I dont
> have any video port working.
>
> How do I get out of this problem and start using my computer again.

Remove the broken card, then reset your BIOS by shorting the appropriate
jumper on your motherboard. Check the manual or online for the Reset BIOS
jumper. This will set the defaults in the bios and your onboard GFX will be
active again.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:30 pm
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NewToFPGA wrote:
>> what is the name and model number of the computer.
>
> emachines T2742

There is no AGP slot on an 845GV based board.

http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&sub...=T-Seri

The AGP slot has a different offset from the computer case, than the
PCI slots, as shown in this example photo below. Which would make it hard to
plug in a card like that. So something doesn't add up here. Maybe there is
a substitute motherboard of some kind in place of the
101220 Seabreeze motherboard ? I think the Seabreeze has three
PCI slots, but I cannot find any pictures worth a damn (i.e. positively
identified as such on a web site, as definitely being from T2742).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/AGP_slot.jpg

This could be the motherboard here. The solder pads for an AGP
slot are present on the motherboard (to allow something other
than an 845GV pin compatible chipset to be used), but there is
no AGP slot soldered on here.

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7524/seabreeze6qi.jpg

Resetting the BIOS, via the CMOS jumper, would be one way to
restore the BIOS settings to default. One of the defaults would
be to enable the onboard video (at least, if any other video
cards were removed at the time). To clear CMOS safely, the
computer should be unplugged. Then, consult the manual for
the location and recipe for clearing the CMOS. The above
appears to be an Intel inspired motherboard, so it could
well have that three position BIOS jumper.

This is a manual for an Intel 845GVSR, which might look similar
to your motherboard. Page 59 has a three pin jumper, and
maybe the "configure" position is what you'd use to
recover it. I don't really know how the Intel scheme
maps to the method used on other motherboards (which
would be a two pin header instead of three).

http://web.archive.org/web/20051122032956/ftp://download.intel.com/des.../mother

Anyway, verify what is inside your computer case first, and
see if any of the above rambling makes sense or not.

Paul
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:21 am
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Paul,

That was good information you gave. I opened my emachines T2742 and it
has m935g v3.1 mother board in it.

I searched the web and the following link has the motherboard image of
what I have..

http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID...2&MenuI


This site tell that it has the following Expansion Slots
1 x AGP 4X
2 x PCI slots
1 x CNR slot

The AGP looks like a universal AGP (there is no division in the
slot).

This site also has a manual. It says that the pin 1-2 need to be short
for clearing the CMOS. I did that.. I dont know what happened .. my pc
is not powering up at all. It seems like a new problem now..

Could it be my power supply now?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:59 pm
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> Two things:
>
> 1) Did you follow my suggestion, and unplug the computer before following
>     the procedure in the manual ? Removing all the cables inside the computer
>     is not essential, but making sure there is no +5VSB is a good safety
>     precaution. And for that, I tell people to unplug, so there is no
>     ambiguity in the instructions.

The computer was unplugged for a week or so before I changed the
jumper settings. I moved the jumpers to pins1-2 while there is no
power supply. Then I connected the power supply. There was no
activity. After that I tried to put back to the pins 2-3 while the
power supply was unplugged. Then put the supply back on. Still
nothing...



>
> 2) Did you put the CMOS jumper back onto pins 2-3. That is the "normal"
>     position for the jumper. On some boards, the jumper is needed so the
>     CMOS well can get power, so it has to go back in the "normal" position.
>

I had the jumpers on pins1-2 when I plugged in the supply.

> If the jumper was placed on pins 1-2, while power was applied, on some
> boards that burns a small dual diode.

I dont see K45 or BAS40W-05 dual diode in the manual. I will see if I
could locate it.

> I hope your problem is you just left that jumper off entirely.

I have the jumpers back on pins 2-3. What do u mean by "jumper off
entirely".



what is my next option? any idea? Smile
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:55 pm
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NewToFPGA wrote:
> Paul,
>
> That was good information you gave. I opened my emachines T2742 and it
> has m935g v3.1 mother board in it.
>
> I searched the web and the following link has the motherboard image of
> what I have..
>
> http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID...2&MenuI
>
>
> This site tell that it has the following Expansion Slots
> 1 x AGP 4X
> 2 x PCI slots
> 1 x CNR slot
>
> The AGP looks like a universal AGP (there is no division in the
> slot).
>
> This site also has a manual. It says that the pin 1-2 need to be short
> for clearing the CMOS. I did that.. I dont know what happened .. my pc
> is not powering up at all. It seems like a new problem now..
>
> Could it be my power supply now?
>

Two things:

1) Did you follow my suggestion, and unplug the computer before following
the procedure in the manual ? Removing all the cables inside the computer
is not essential, but making sure there is no +5VSB is a good safety
precaution. And for that, I tell people to unplug, so there is no
ambiguity in the instructions.

2) Did you put the CMOS jumper back onto pins 2-3. That is the "normal"
position for the jumper. On some boards, the jumper is needed so the
CMOS well can get power, so it has to go back in the "normal" position.

If the jumper was placed on pins 1-2, while power was applied, on some
boards that burns a small dual diode. On several of my motherboards here,
the device is marked with "K45" in microscopic letters. (I need one
of my small magnifying glasses to see it.) The device has three legs, and
is typically located near the CMOS battery. (It doesn't have to be physically
close, and if the motherboard designer has a weird sense of humor, it could
be almost anywhere. But normally it would be in the neighbourhood of the
battery.

It would be a BAS40W-05 dual diode with common cathode. What happens is,
on some motherboards, clearing the CMOS while the power is running, causes
significant current flow through one side of that device, and it is enough
to fry it. Usually, people who suffer from this, cannot read the letters
on top of the device, because of the physical damage (frying).

http://web.archive.org/web/20030629225735/http://www.cj-elec.com/ebusi...s/produ

If the thing is fried, one guy I helped out, replaced it with a couple
ordinary diodes, and claimed all was well when he was finished. So it
can be repaired.

I hope your problem is you just left that jumper off entirely.

Paul
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:21 pm
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I dont find the K45 anywhere near the CMOS battery. I all see are
starting with R, C, ST, ....

I had to change the power supply before a week ago. Do you think it
has happened again?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:11 pm
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After a close reading of the manual it says that "It has the
external AGP slot with AGP 4X/2X capability". What does it mean?
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