opinion about 9600 pro or 9800 se

Killa wrote:
 > I am looking at a new 9600 radeon pro for $105, and my friend wants to sell
 > his used 9800 se 256 bit for $100
 >
 > just curious as to what you people would choose?
 >
 >

A 9800SE definitely.At stock speeds/4 pipelines it's still better than a
9600Pro and if you unlock the extra 4 pipelines you get a 9800/Pro.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Killa" <killa DeleteThis @thrilla.com> wrote in message
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 >I am looking at a new 9600 radeon pro for $105, and my friend wants to sell
 > his used 9800 se 256 bit for $100
 >
 > just curious as to what you people would choose?
 >
 >
according to this guide
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-02.html" target="_blank">http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-02.html</a>
the 9800se is 128bit not 256. it has slower core speed and faster memory.
some ppl find they can mod the card to a 9800pro just
by using the omega drivers - ask your friend if he has tried that.
even if you cant mod it the performance is still a bit better than the
9600pro so its worth it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: opinion about 9600 pro or 9800 se 

"Killa" <killa.RemoveThis@thrilla.com> wrote in message
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 >I am looking at a new 9600 radeon pro for $105, and my friend wants to sell
 > his used 9800 se 256 bit for $100
 >

The 9800SE without question. If it's a 256bit one. There was also a 4
pipeline 128bit version. The 256bit 9800SE has basically double the
bandwidth of a 9600 Pro.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 > the 9800se is 128bit not 256. it has slower core speed and faster memory.
 > some ppl find they can mod the card to a 9800pro just
 > by using the omega drivers - ask your friend if he has tried that.
 > even if you cant mod it the performance is still a bit better than the
 > 9600pro so its worth it.

There's two versions of the 9800SE......
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In article <A1tRd.17886$8B3.4722@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Sleepy
says...

 > according to this guide
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-02.html</font" target="_blank">http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-02.html</font</a>>
 > the 9800se is 128bit not 256. it has slower core speed and faster memory.
 > some ppl find they can mod the card to a 9800pro just
 > by using the omega drivers - ask your friend if he has tried that.

My 9800SE AIW is 256 bit...


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"DaveW" <none DeleteThis @zero.org> wrote in message
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 > The SE model is noticeably slower. Not worth the small difference in
 > price.

You're seriously suggesting that the 9800SE is slower than the 9600 Pro?
Read his post....he's not asking about a choice between a 9800 Pro and a
9800SE.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: opinion about 9600 pro or 9800 se 

In article <3jwRd.2476$NN.1600@edtnps89>, Augustus says...
 >
 > "DaveW" <none.RemoveThis@zero.org> wrote in message
 > news:WeWdneFHaft2H4vfRVn-2A@comcast.com...
  > > The SE model is noticeably slower. Not worth the small difference in
  > > price.
 >
 > You're seriously suggesting that the 9800SE is slower than the 9600 Pro?
 > Read his post....he's not asking about a choice between a 9800 Pro and a
 > 9800SE.
 >
When I had to RMA a 9800Pro and the only other cards they had in stock
were a 9800SE AIW and a 9600 Pro, the shop recommended the 9600 Pro
even though it meant them giving me more money back as it was cheaper.


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What about the 9600XT?

This is closer to the 9800 se, and can possibly out perform it

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-04.html" target="_blank">http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-04.html</a>

i would get the xt, and remember that the se cards, even if they have a
256bit bus the quality of memory is crap, meaning that you don't really see
the difference, as far as i've learn't never touch SE products if you can.
"Conor" <conor.RemoveThis@conorturton.com> wrote in message
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 > In article <3jwRd.2476$NN.1600@edtnps89>, Augustus says...
  >>
  >> "DaveW" <none.RemoveThis@zero.org> wrote in message
  >> news:WeWdneFHaft2H4vfRVn-2A@comcast.com...
   >> > The SE model is noticeably slower. Not worth the small difference in
   >> > price.
  >>
  >> You're seriously suggesting that the 9800SE is slower than the 9600 Pro?
  >> Read his post....he's not asking about a choice between a 9800 Pro and a
  >> 9800SE.
  >>
 > When I had to RMA a 9800Pro and the only other cards they had in stock
 > were a 9800SE AIW and a 9600 Pro, the shop recommended the 9600 Pro
 > even though it meant them giving me more money back as it was cheaper.
 >
 >
 > --
 > Conor
 >
 > An imperfect plan executed violently is far superior to a perfect plan.
 > -- George Patton<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: opinion about 9600 pro or 9800 se 

In article <hPFRd.1815$Y2.696@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Veritech says...
 > What about the 9600XT?
 >
 > This is closer to the 9800 se, and can possibly out perform it
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-04.html</font" target="_blank">http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-04.html</font</a>>
 >
 > i would get the xt,

Why when a Pro will O/C to XT speeds? I've got a 9800SE AIW running at
9800XT core/mem speeds.


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 >> Stay informed about: opinion about 9600 pro or 9800 se 

If it's a Powercolor 9800se it's definitely 256 bit and clocked 380/340 so
it will walk all over a
9600Pro. Also a good chance it can be modded to a full 9800Pro.
"Killa" <killa.RemoveThis@thrilla.com> wrote in message
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 >I am looking at a new 9600 radeon pro for $105, and my friend wants to sell
 > his used 9800 se 256 bit for $100
 >
 > just curious as to what you people would choose?
 >
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