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Since: Mar 09, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:48 am
Post subject: overclocker
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| Hey all, I just got my 9800pro sapphire, which I love.
I am thinking about overclocking, but I am new to the ati club, was an
nvidia fanboy for a bit there.
What tool do you all recommend and also, what core / mem speeds do you think
are achievable.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:29 am
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"P J C" <paulcote.RemoveThis@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Hey all, I just got my 9800pro sapphire, which I love.
> I am thinking about overclocking, but I am new to the ati club, was an
> nvidia fanboy for a bit there.
> What tool do you all recommend and also, what core / mem speeds do you
think
> are achievable.
> thanks
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I'm also new to ATI coming over from years with Nvidia. I use RivaTuner it
works great. I also have tried AtiTool, which also works fine. AtiTool is
handy because it lets you test for artifacts. It has a little 3D test window
that works great.
Got to tell you I'm not all that excited about what my card can do. I have
the same card as you. Have you looked at your memory modules to see what
brand and speed they are? I have Samsung 3.25 on mine. I tested my card for
the best overclock for several days and what I ended up with is 412/376. If
I lower the core to 400 I can up the ram to 380. But I get better
performance with the higher core setting. But after throwing ever benchmark
and real game testing my results are not worth it. I only gain 1-2 FPS no
matter what it is. Now someone posted here last week that that's OK because
what the clocking is doing is helping the card from dipping when there is
heavy load on it. I'm really not sure if that true or not. When I have my
Ti-4200 I could clock it to 310/660
I would see at lest a 6 FPS increase and in some games even 10FPS. So I'm
used to really seeing a big improvement with clocking. But all said, the
card is plenty fast at stock speed. What you need to do to really see the
improvement over your old card is to crank up the AA and Anisotropic
Filtering. Man does it make a huge improvement. In some of my games the
different is really amazing. The 9800Pro just plan kicks major eyecandy butt
over what Nvidia has to offer. Post back and let me know what you can get
out of your card OK?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:34 am
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Sounds like you may be cpu bottlenecked. My 9800np clcoked to pro speeds
gives a good increase.
Mike
"JLC" <j.jc RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "P J C" <paulcote RemoveThis @nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:SHb1c.4362$Wo2.27@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > Hey all, I just got my 9800pro sapphire, which I love.
> > I am thinking about overclocking, but I am new to the ati club, was an
> > nvidia fanboy for a bit there.
> > What tool do you all recommend and also, what core / mem speeds do you
> think
> > are achievable.
> > thanks
> >
> I'm also new to ATI coming over from years with Nvidia. I use RivaTuner it
> works great. I also have tried AtiTool, which also works fine. AtiTool is
> handy because it lets you test for artifacts. It has a little 3D test
window
> that works great.
> Got to tell you I'm not all that excited about what my card can do. I
have
> the same card as you. Have you looked at your memory modules to see what
> brand and speed they are? I have Samsung 3.25 on mine. I tested my card
for
> the best overclock for several days and what I ended up with is 412/376.
If
> I lower the core to 400 I can up the ram to 380. But I get better
> performance with the higher core setting. But after throwing ever
benchmark
> and real game testing my results are not worth it. I only gain 1-2 FPS no
> matter what it is. Now someone posted here last week that that's OK
because
> what the clocking is doing is helping the card from dipping when there is
> heavy load on it. I'm really not sure if that true or not. When I have my
> Ti-4200 I could clock it to 310/660
> I would see at lest a 6 FPS increase and in some games even 10FPS. So I'm
> used to really seeing a big improvement with clocking. But all said, the
> card is plenty fast at stock speed. What you need to do to really see the
> improvement over your old card is to crank up the AA and Anisotropic
> Filtering. Man does it make a huge improvement. In some of my games the
> different is really amazing. The 9800Pro just plan kicks major eyecandy
butt
> over what Nvidia has to offer. Post back and let me know what you can get
> out of your card OK?
> JLC
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:53 pm
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try the omega drivers from <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.omegacorner.com" target="_blank">www.omegacorner.com</a>
which include a radclocker for overclocking and artifact tester too. try the
newest drivers by all means but get the 3.7s as a backup - most
stable/compatible drivers there are.
"P J C" <paulcote.TakeThisOut@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Hey all, I just got my 9800pro sapphire, which I love.
> I am thinking about overclocking, but I am new to the ati club, was an
> nvidia fanboy for a bit there.
> What tool do you all recommend and also, what core / mem speeds do you
think
> are achievable.
> thanks
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:56 pm
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"Mike P" <mikepos1.RemoveThis@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds like you may be cpu bottlenecked. My 9800np clcoked to pro speeds
> gives a good increase.
>
I'd like to see some data on how much of incresce in FPS (not benchmark
scores) there is with the same card overclocked at the same speed, but with
different CPU's. I have a P4 2Ghz clocked to 2.2. Anyone out there that has
say a 3Ghz that can inform me on whay there getting. JLC<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: overclocker |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:21 pm
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Hey JLC,
thanks for the great response.
I tried the ATITool, seems very elaborate, very well done. Honestly,
I'm happy at stock speeds and it takes waaaay too long to figure out the max
core and mem spds.
"P J C" <paulcote.RemoveThis@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Hey all, I just got my 9800pro sapphire, which I love.
> I am thinking about overclocking, but I am new to the ati club, was an
> nvidia fanboy for a bit there.
> What tool do you all recommend and also, what core / mem speeds do you
think
> are achievable.
> thanks
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:54 pm
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"JLC" <j.jc.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to see some data on how much of incresce in FPS (not benchmark
> scores) there is with the same card overclocked at the same speed, but
with
> different CPU's. I have a P4 2Ghz clocked to 2.2. Anyone out there that
has
> say a 3Ghz that can inform me on whay there getting. JLC
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I'm not about to overclock my 9800 Pro, but I have a 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB
Pentium 4 and I recall getting about 15,700 in 3DMark2001SE at default
settings and no overclocking. How does that compare to your system? It may
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:02 am
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It isn't exact but the closest thing I know of to that is the comparison
database for 3dmark2001. If I ever get the energy maybe I'll drop my xp2500
down to stock speed and do some benches, then bench again at xp3200
speeds... I'll post here if I do.
Mike
"JLC" <j.jc.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike P" <mikepos1.RemoveThis@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:cfd1c.109141$IF6.3376523@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > Sounds like you may be cpu bottlenecked. My 9800np clcoked to pro
speeds
> > gives a good increase.
> >
> I'd like to see some data on how much of incresce in FPS (not benchmark
> scores) there is with the same card overclocked at the same speed, but
with
> different CPU's. I have a P4 2Ghz clocked to 2.2. Anyone out there that
has
> say a 3Ghz that can inform me on whay there getting. JLC
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 6:55 am
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"NightSky 421" <nightsky421REPLY-TO-GROUP.DeleteThis@decite.com> wrote in message
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> "JLC" <j.jc.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u7o1c.106795$Xp.458435@attbi_s54...
> >
> > I'd like to see some data on how much of incresce in FPS (not benchmark
> > scores) there is with the same card overclocked at the same speed, but
> with
> > different CPU's. I have a P4 2Ghz clocked to 2.2. Anyone out there that
> has
> > say a 3Ghz that can inform me on whay there getting. JLC
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>
> I'm not about to overclock my 9800 Pro, but I have a 2.8GHz 800MHz FSB
> Pentium 4 and I recall getting about 15,700 in 3DMark2001SE at default
> settings and no overclocking. How does that compare to your system? It
may
> help give an idea as to bottlenecks.
>
What I realize now after doing lots of testing is that yes, if you run a BM
like 3DMark your score is going to look impressive when you OC, but if you
look at how much theactually FPS increase it's not very much. As I said I'm
interested in real game testing.
I've been playing around with AquaMark which is suppose to represent real
gaming vs. a BM score. It sure looks cool!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: overclocker |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:03 am
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> newest drivers by all means but get the 3.7s as a backup - most
> stable/compatible drivers there are.
Everyone just loves 3.7. Don't know why. I think 4.2 is also just as good
and fast as 3.7. That's on an old r200 8500le card.
I think 3.7 are popular due to the "special magical numbers" 3 and 7...
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:14 am
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"JLC" <j.jc DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> What I realize now after doing lots of testing is that yes, if you run a
BM
> like 3DMark your score is going to look impressive when you OC, but if you
> look at how much theactually FPS increase it's not very much. As I said
I'm
> interested in real game testing.
Fair enough, I agree real gaming performance is the most important.
> I've been playing around with AquaMark which is suppose to represent real
> gaming vs. a BM score. It sure looks cool!
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I installed the AquaMark benchmark myself and it looks great!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: overclocker |
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