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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:02 pm
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Hi all,

My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with the
BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can use
clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its sealed )

Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...


Hans

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:02 am
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"Hans" <jjrad.DeleteThis@casema.nl> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with
> the BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can
> use clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its
> sealed )
>
> Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...

This is an Aspire desktop unit, right? It obviously can't have a sealed
case. What happens if you want to upgrade the video card, processor or ram?
Anyway, proprietary m/b with no o/c potential and good luck with finding a
program that'll target that specific clockgen. Which you'll have to crack
the case to find out, I'm afraid

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:05 am
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"Augustus" <no_one.TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Hans" <jjrad.TakeThisOut@casema.nl> wrote in message
> news:58947$47798cb8$5354af9a$1826@cache120.multikabel.net...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with
> > the BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can
> > use clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its
> > sealed )
> >
> > Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...
>
> This is an Aspire desktop unit, right? It obviously can't have a sealed
> case. What happens if you want to upgrade the video card, processor or
ram?
> Anyway, proprietary m/b with no o/c potential and good luck with finding a
> program that'll target that specific clockgen. Which you'll have to crack
> the case to find out, I'm afraid
>
>
When you open the case you have to cut a small warranty sticker and once
this sticker is cut your warranty is gone.
Everest will tell you what is inside your computer without opening the case.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:02 am
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Yes , Everest and many other programs will report wat motherboard i have ,
but not what PLL is on it.....

"Venom" <Venom DeleteThis @Mailhouse.com> schreef in bericht
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>
> "Augustus" <no_one DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:mtlej.43431$UZ4.10202@edtnps89...
>>
>> "Hans" <jjrad DeleteThis @casema.nl> wrote in message
>> news:58947$47798cb8$5354af9a$1826@cache120.multikabel.net...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock
>> > with
>> > the BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i
>> > can
>> > use clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its
>> > sealed )
>> >
>> > Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this
>> > system...
>>
>> This is an Aspire desktop unit, right? It obviously can't have a sealed
>> case. What happens if you want to upgrade the video card, processor or
> ram?
>> Anyway, proprietary m/b with no o/c potential and good luck with finding
>> a
>> program that'll target that specific clockgen. Which you'll have to crack
>> the case to find out, I'm afraid
>>
>>
> When you open the case you have to cut a small warranty sticker and once
> this sticker is cut your warranty is gone.
> Everest will tell you what is inside your computer without opening the
> case.
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:25 pm
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'Hans' wrote:
| My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with
the
| BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can use
| clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its sealed )
|
| Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...
_____

In general, if a computer system is so overclocking 'unfriendly' as to have
NO BIOS settings or motherboard jumpers that affect CPU speed, then you
should not overclock.

Even if you CAN identify the PLL and/or chipset and change the clock speed,
you may not be able to overclock. And if you can't overclock, you will have
no idea WHY the overclock fails. Is it CPU core voltage? Memory speed? Is
the clock speed actually set as you suppose?

All in all, at best, a frustrating experience, at worst, no gain for the
possible loss of your warranty. (The warranty thing is hard to determine as
Acer seems to hold ANY details of their products very closely.

My recommendation? Keep your Acer M550 as it is. Many of us who overclock
always try to maintain at least ONE reliable computer to use when recovering
from a misstep in overclocking. Even though most of use who post regularly
in this newsgroup (alt.comp.hardware.overclocking - if you see this post
anywhere other than Usenet, then it, like most posts found in 'forums', was
copied to the forum to make it seem more than it is) take pride in an
overclock that is at least as stable as a stock system, the occasional
misstep happens, and it is a great convince to be able to continue accessing
the Internet, Usenet, and email while, for example, swapping cooling
components or power supply.

Phil Weldon

"Hans" <jjrad.RemoveThis@casema.nl> wrote in message
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| Hi all,
|
| My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with
the
| BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can use
| clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its sealed )
|
| Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...
|
|
| Hans
|
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:02 pm
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> When you open the case you have to cut a small warranty sticker and once
> this sticker is cut your warranty is gone.
> Everest will tell you what is inside your computer without opening the
> case.

So if you add any component you void the warranty? And any repair or upgrade
is return to depot? Sounds like a brand to avoid.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:02 pm
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In article <58947$47798cb8$5354af9a$1826@cache120.multikabel.net>,
jjrad.DeleteThis@casema.nl says...
> Hi all,
>
> My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with the
> BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can use
> clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its sealed )
>
> Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...
>
>
> Hans
>
>

Could you post a link to your computer somewhere on the Internet?

All I'm coming up with is an Aspire laptop and an Alienware laptop.

Bill
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:02 pm
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"Augustus" <no_one.RemoveThis@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> > When you open the case you have to cut a small warranty sticker and once
> > this sticker is cut your warranty is gone.
> > Everest will tell you what is inside your computer without opening the
> > case.
>
> So if you add any component you void the warranty? And any repair or
upgrade
> is return to depot? Sounds like a brand to avoid.
>
>
I think most of the branded computers are the same regarding warranty rules.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:02 pm
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"Hans" wrote in message
> Yes , Everest and many other programs will report wat motherboard i have
,
> but not what PLL is on it.....
>
>
The only option left is to open the case and see what is there. You have no
other options because overclocking and cooking your computer voids your
warranty too.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:02 pm
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'Venom' wrote:
| The only option left is to open the case and see what is there. You have
no
| other options because overclocking and cooking your computer voids your
| warranty too.
_____

No, overclocking a computer does not void the warranty. However did you
get that idea? Opening the case of a computer does not, for any computer
I've ever seen, void the warranty either. However did you get that idea?
While attempting to overclock a computer that has no built in provisions for
doing so is neither easy nor worthwhile, overclocking voids no warranty.
However did you get the idea that it would. Explicit warranty aside, how
is it possible to KNOW whether a particular computer system has been
overclocked?

Phil Weldon

"Venom" <Venom.RemoveThis@Mailhouse.com> wrote in message
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|
| "Hans" wrote in message
| > Yes , Everest and many other programs will report wat motherboard i
have
| ,
| > but not what PLL is on it.....
| >
| >
| The only option left is to open the case and see what is there. You have
no
| other options because overclocking and cooking your computer voids your
| warranty too.
|
|
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:02 pm
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'Venom' wrote:
| I think most of the branded computers are the same regarding warranty
rules.
_____

'I think' is hardly convincing evidence. And in this case, what you 'think'
happens not to be the case. Neither is overclocking detectable.

Phil Weldon

"Venom" <Venom DeleteThis @Mailhouse.com> wrote in message
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|
| "Augustus" <no_one DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote in message
| news:ocvej.43571$UZ4.36857@edtnps89...
| > > When you open the case you have to cut a small warranty sticker and
once
| > > this sticker is cut your warranty is gone.
| > > Everest will tell you what is inside your computer without opening the
| > > case.
| >
| > So if you add any component you void the warranty? And any repair or
| upgrade
| > is return to depot? Sounds like a brand to avoid.
| >
| >
| I think most of the branded computers are the same regarding warranty
rules.
|
|
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:03 am
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"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed.RemoveThis@example.com> wrote in message
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> 'Venom' wrote:
> | The only option left is to open the case and see what is there. You have
> no
> | other options because overclocking and cooking your computer voids your
> | warranty too.
> _____
>
> No, overclocking a computer does not void the warranty. However did you
> get that idea? Opening the case of a computer does not, for any computer
> I've ever seen, void the warranty either. However did you get that idea?
> While attempting to overclock a computer that has no built in provisions
> for
> doing so is neither easy nor worthwhile, overclocking voids no warranty.
> However did you get the idea that it would. Explicit warranty aside, how
> is it possible to KNOW whether a particular computer system has been
> overclocked?
>
> Phil Weldon
>
>
Try taking a computer back to Harvey Normans for warranty with the sticker
cut, torn or otherwise not in perfect condition and see what happens. You
would be in for a pleasant surprise there Phil.
As for the other, I was led to believe that when the part or parts that
aren't working are returned to the manufacturer for warranty they have ways
of telling if the component died naturally or from outside causes. Of course
this could also be the manufacturers way of not providing warranty. Either
way the owner gets stuck with the final bill.
You also seem to be forgetting that most brand name computers are built from
the highest grade factory seconds and this coupled with the low prices of
these units do not leave much room for first class warranty. I suppose we
shouldn't forget that a warranty claim also seems to take 3 months to
complete so there is a quarter of your 12 month warranty gone too.
My advice with propriety computers, if you must buy them, is to just use
them and not mess with them.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:03 am
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"Phil Weldon" wrote in message
> 'Venom' wrote:
> | I think most of the branded computers are the same regarding warranty
> rules.
> _____
>
> 'I think' is hardly convincing evidence. And in this case, what you
> 'think'
> happens not to be the case. Neither is overclocking detectable.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
>
You are dead right Phil. What I think is of no importance. Let the newbies
discover all the tricks of the trade for themselves.
After all, there is no better way to learn than by experience.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:02 am
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Overhere the link to the Acer M5500:

http://acer.nl/public/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=30174&UserCtxParam=0...oupCtxP

Had to look for a page in English.....
I know its not much info , but betger than nothing...

Hans

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> In article <58947$47798cb8$5354af9a$1826@cache120.multikabel.net>,
> jjrad.TakeThisOut@casema.nl says...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My computer is an Acer M5500 without any possibilities to overclock with
>> the
>> BIOS. Does anyone know wich PLL is used on the motherboard, so i can use
>> clockgen to overclock? ( i don't want to open up the case, its sealed )
>>
>> Perhaps somebody has also other hints for me to overclock this system...
>>
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>
> Could you post a link to your computer somewhere on the Internet?
>
> All I'm coming up with is an Aspire laptop and an Alienware laptop.
>
> Bill
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:49 am
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In article <5b3cd$477b903c$5354af9a$9871@cache110.multikabel.net>,
jjrad.RemoveThis@casema.nl says...
> Overhere the link to the Acer M5500:
>
> http://acer.nl/public/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=30174&UserCtxParam=0...oupCtxP
>
> Had to look for a page in English.....
> I know its not much info , but betger than nothing...
>
> Hans
>

Ahh, Thankyou. Now I can see what it is.

Bill
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