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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:07 am
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I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:07 am
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In article <MMJ9c.122163$po.809931@attbi_s52>, "Tab" <ta.snyder.DeleteThis@mchsi.com>
wrote:
> I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
> shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
> processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
> adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
> spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tab
The prices for the Powerleap are:
"1.0 GHz now only $99.95
1.4 GHz now only $119.95"
With an upgrade, the RAM type will change, so you will need a new
CPU, new RAM, a new motherboard (and likely a new power supply, to
give enough power and also to give you a 2x2 +12V power connector).
An upgrade would be much more expensive.
Your motherboard options are the last entry in the table on this
page:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html</a>
If I'm reading that table correctly, your motherboard can produce
Vcore voltages below 1.8V, and that will be suitable for powering
the 1.5V the Tualatin requires. A cheap Upgradeware Slot-T and a
Tualatin is then a viable option.
The main problem now, will be finding a vendor who is still
selling these processors. That is one advantage of the Powerleap
solution - as time passes, the Powerleap is an easier way to
get a processor chip.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:07 am
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder DeleteThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tab
>
Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2" target="_blank">http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</a>
I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:53 pm
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Tab schrieb:
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> I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
> shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
> processor.
In most cases, however, a P3B-F rev. 1.01 or higher will run Coppermines
just fine, just as a Tualatin Celeron with Slot-T or similar.
Stephan
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:39 am
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dirt RemoveThis @cheap.com wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder RemoveThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus website
>>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
>>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a slot
>>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
>>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Tab
>>
>
>
> Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
> to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
> spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
> Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</font" target="_blank">http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</font</a>>
>
> I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
> there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
> you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
> it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
> firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
>
On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
when the time comes...
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:39 am
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im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as high
as it will go.
using an adapter for voltage purposes.
"P2B" <p2b.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> dirt.TakeThisOut@cheap.com wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder.TakeThisOut@mchsi.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
website
> >>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
> >>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
slot
> >>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
> >>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Tab
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
> > to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
> > spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
> > Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
> >
<font color=green> > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</font" target="_blank">http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</font</a>>
> >
> > I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
> > there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
> > you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
> > it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
> > firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
> >
>
> On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
>
> However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
> functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
> still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
> without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
> new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
> provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
>
> It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
> Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
> *need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
> when the time comes...
>
> P2B
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:39 am
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Jake wrote:
> im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as high
> as it will go.
> using an adapter for voltage purposes.
I have a (dead) P3B-F 1.03. here. The voltage regulator chip is a
HIP6020ACB, which can supply the lower voltages required by Tualatin
processors. The clock chip must have been an ICS9250-08 (150Mhz capable)
because it's gone, and I wouldn't have bothered to transplant a slow
clock chip
Assuming your 1.03. board has the same voltage regulator, you can run
any Tualatin Celeron (or P3, but they are expensive) on a cheap Slot-T
adapter, no need for a Powerleap - but then SDRAM becomes the bottleneck
so you want to maximise FSB.
Almost all BX chipsets are stable at 140Mhz FSB, and many will do 150Mhz
- especially the later steppings. My favourite Tualatin for BX boards is
the Celeron 1.0AGhz because it's cheap and usually overclocks to 1.5Ghz
on default voltage (but you need PC150 SDRAM), and always overclocks to
1.4Ghz with good quality PC133. Needless to say 140Mhz x 10 performs
much better than 100Mhz x 14 (1.4 Ghz Celeron at stock speed).
P2B
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> "P2B" <p2b DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>>dirt@cheap.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder DeleteThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
>
> website
>
>>>>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
>>>>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
>
> slot
>
>>>>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going to
>>>>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Tab
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
>>>to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
>>>spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
>>>Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
>>>
>>>http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2
>>>
>>>I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
>>>there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
>>>you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
>>>it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
>>>firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
>>>
>>
>>On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
>>
>>However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
>>functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
>>still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
>>without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
>>new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
>>provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
>>
>>It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
>>Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
>>*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
>>when the time comes...
>>
>>P2B
>>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:31 pm
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They did make and sold, a Slot1 1GHz P3 @ 100MHz. I had no problems running
it on my P3B-F. I gave that PC away 2 years ago, with the CPU still kicking
strong in it.
But good luck finding one now.
"Jake" <jacques65 RemoveThis @NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as high
> as it will go.
> using an adapter for voltage purposes.
>
> "P2B" <p2b RemoveThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BP6ac.3003$j57.429732@news20.bellglobal.com...
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> >
> > dirt RemoveThis @cheap.com wrote:
> > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder RemoveThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
> website
> > >>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
> > >>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
> slot
> > >>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going
to
> > >>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>Tab
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
> > > to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
> > > spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
> > > Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
> > >
<font color=brown> > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</font" target="_blank">http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2</font</a>>
> > >
> > > I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
> > > there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
> > > you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
> > > it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
> > > firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
> > >
> >
> > On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
> >
> > However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
> > functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
> > still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
> > without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
> > new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
> > provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
> >
> > It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
> > Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
> > *need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
> > when the time comes...
> >
> > P2B
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:18 am
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Sept1967 wrote:
> They did make and sold, a Slot1 1GHz P3 @ 100MHz. I had no problems running
> it on my P3B-F. I gave that PC away 2 years ago, with the CPU still kicking
> strong in it.
>
> But good luck finding one now.
No problem, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.starmicro.net" target="_blank">http://www.starmicro.net</a>
Only $399 each!
A Tualatin Celeron and Slot-T would give better performance for 20% of
that price.
> "Jake" <jacques65 RemoveThis @NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:H3rac.52429$li5.39245@pd7tw3no...
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>>im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as high
>>as it will go.
>>using an adapter for voltage purposes.
>>
>>"P2B" <p2b RemoveThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:BP6ac.3003$j57.429732@news20.bellglobal.com...
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>>>
>>>dirt@cheap.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder RemoveThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
>>
>>website
>>
>>>>>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
>>>>>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
>>
>>slot
>>
>>>>>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going
>
> to
>
>>>>>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Tab
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
>>>>to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
>>>>spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
>>>>Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
>>>>there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
>>>>you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
>>>>it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
>>>>firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
>>>>
>>>
>>>On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
>>>
>>>However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
>>>functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
>>>still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
>>>without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
>>>new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
>>>provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
>>>
>>>It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
>>>Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
>>>*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
>>>when the time comes...
>>>
>>>P2B
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:38 am
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Thanks for all the great advice. I ordered a Slot-T and a 1.1GHz Tualatin
processor. $70 total. I really was wanting a new MoBo and processor, but
wasn't thrilled with what I could get for what I could afford. If I can
squeeze a few more years out of my P3B-F, I'll then be in a position where I
can build my dream machine. I think this upgrade will do the trick.
Again thanks,
Tab
"P2B" <p2b DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Jake wrote:
> > im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as
high
> > as it will go.
> > using an adapter for voltage purposes.
>
> I have a (dead) P3B-F 1.03. here. The voltage regulator chip is a
> HIP6020ACB, which can supply the lower voltages required by Tualatin
> processors. The clock chip must have been an ICS9250-08 (150Mhz capable)
> because it's gone, and I wouldn't have bothered to transplant a slow
> clock chip
>
> Assuming your 1.03. board has the same voltage regulator, you can run
> any Tualatin Celeron (or P3, but they are expensive) on a cheap Slot-T
> adapter, no need for a Powerleap - but then SDRAM becomes the bottleneck
> so you want to maximise FSB.
>
> Almost all BX chipsets are stable at 140Mhz FSB, and many will do 150Mhz
> - especially the later steppings. My favourite Tualatin for BX boards is
> the Celeron 1.0AGhz because it's cheap and usually overclocks to 1.5Ghz
> on default voltage (but you need PC150 SDRAM), and always overclocks to
> 1.4Ghz with good quality PC133. Needless to say 140Mhz x 10 performs
> much better than 100Mhz x 14 (1.4 Ghz Celeron at stock speed).
>
> P2B
>
> >
> > "P2B" <p2b DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:BP6ac.3003$j57.429732@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >
> >>
> >>dirt@cheap.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder DeleteThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
> >
> > website
> >
> >>>>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
> >>>>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
> >
> > slot
> >
> >>>>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going
to
> >>>>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Tab
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
> >>>to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
> >>>spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
> >>>Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2
> >>>
> >>>I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
> >>>there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
> >>>you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
> >>>it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
> >>>firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
> >>>
> >>
> >>On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
> >>
> >>However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
> >>functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
> >>still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
> >>without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
> >>new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
> >>provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
> >>
> >>It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
> >>Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
> >>*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
> >>when the time comes...
> >>
> >>P2B
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:39 am
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Tab wrote:
> Thanks for all the great advice. I ordered a Slot-T and a 1.1GHz Tualatin
> processor. $70 total. I really was wanting a new MoBo and processor, but
> wasn't thrilled with what I could get for what I could afford. If I can
> squeeze a few more years out of my P3B-F, I'll then be in a position where I
> can build my dream machine. I think this upgrade will do the trick.
>
> Again thanks,
>
> Tab
Glad to help. I'm sure you'll be pleased with the price/performance of
that upgrade - and you know where to come if any issues arise during
installation.
P2B
>
> "P2B" <p2b.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:1Srac.10282$j57.648619@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>>
>>Jake wrote:
>>
>>>im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as
>
> high
>
>>>as it will go.
>>>using an adapter for voltage purposes.
>>
>>I have a (dead) P3B-F 1.03. here. The voltage regulator chip is a
>>HIP6020ACB, which can supply the lower voltages required by Tualatin
>>processors. The clock chip must have been an ICS9250-08 (150Mhz capable)
>>because it's gone, and I wouldn't have bothered to transplant a slow
>>clock chip
>>
>>Assuming your 1.03. board has the same voltage regulator, you can run
>>any Tualatin Celeron (or P3, but they are expensive) on a cheap Slot-T
>>adapter, no need for a Powerleap - but then SDRAM becomes the bottleneck
>>so you want to maximise FSB.
>>
>>Almost all BX chipsets are stable at 140Mhz FSB, and many will do 150Mhz
>>- especially the later steppings. My favourite Tualatin for BX boards is
>>the Celeron 1.0AGhz because it's cheap and usually overclocks to 1.5Ghz
>>on default voltage (but you need PC150 SDRAM), and always overclocks to
>>1.4Ghz with good quality PC133. Needless to say 140Mhz x 10 performs
>>much better than 100Mhz x 14 (1.4 Ghz Celeron at stock speed).
>>
>>P2B
>>
>>
>>>"P2B" <p2b.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:BP6ac.3003$j57.429732@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>dirt@cheap.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder.RemoveThis@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
>>>
>>>website
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600 MHz
>>>>>>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
>>>
>>>slot
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going
>
> to
>
>>>>>>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tab
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
>>>>>to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
>>>>>spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
>>>>>Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2
>>>>>
>>>>>I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard. Frankly
>>>>>there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
>>>>>you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress, but
>>>>>it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
>>>>>firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
>>>>
>>>>However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the added
>>>>functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
>>>>still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz FSB
>>>>without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
>>>>new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
>>>>provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
>>>>
>>>>It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or two
>>>>Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
>>>>*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
>>>>when the time comes...
>>>>
>>>>P2B
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:50 pm
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This is exactly what I got a while ago. Running fine (thanks to P2B) on my
P2B rev.1.10
with 2 sticks of 256 Crucial PC133.
No problem at all.
Very nice and stable machine.
Tab <ta.snyder DeleteThis @mchsi.com> a écrit dans le message :
nlqbc.162950$1p.2064458@attbi_s54...
> Thanks for all the great advice. I ordered a Slot-T and a 1.1GHz Tualatin
> processor. $70 total. I really was wanting a new MoBo and processor, but
> wasn't thrilled with what I could get for what I could afford. If I can
> squeeze a few more years out of my P3B-F, I'll then be in a position where
I
> can build my dream machine. I think this upgrade will do the trick.
>
> Again thanks,
>
> Tab
>
> "P2B" <p2b DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:1Srac.10282$j57.648619@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >
> >
> > Jake wrote:
> > > im running a PIII 800 on that board but its my understanding thats as
> high
> > > as it will go.
> > > using an adapter for voltage purposes.
> >
> > I have a (dead) P3B-F 1.03. here. The voltage regulator chip is a
> > HIP6020ACB, which can supply the lower voltages required by Tualatin
> > processors. The clock chip must have been an ICS9250-08 (150Mhz capable)
> > because it's gone, and I wouldn't have bothered to transplant a slow
> > clock chip
> >
> > Assuming your 1.03. board has the same voltage regulator, you can run
> > any Tualatin Celeron (or P3, but they are expensive) on a cheap Slot-T
> > adapter, no need for a Powerleap - but then SDRAM becomes the bottleneck
> > so you want to maximise FSB.
> >
> > Almost all BX chipsets are stable at 140Mhz FSB, and many will do 150Mhz
> > - especially the later steppings. My favourite Tualatin for BX boards is
> > the Celeron 1.0AGhz because it's cheap and usually overclocks to 1.5Ghz
> > on default voltage (but you need PC150 SDRAM), and always overclocks to
> > 1.4Ghz with good quality PC133. Needless to say 140Mhz x 10 performs
> > much better than 100Mhz x 14 (1.4 Ghz Celeron at stock speed).
> >
> > P2B
> >
> > >
> > > "P2B" <p2b DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:BP6ac.3003$j57.429732@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > >
> > >>
> > >>dirt@cheap.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:07:08 GMT, "Tab" <ta.snyder DeleteThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I have a P3B-F rev1.03. I am running rev 1008.004 bios. The Asus
> > >
> > > website
> > >
> > >>>>shows that the rev 1.03 board can not run anything more than a 600
MHz
> > >>>>processor. Has anyone tried running a 1.1 Tualatin processor with a
> > >
> > > slot
> > >
> > >>>>adapter on this board. I've looked at the Powerleap, but if I going
> to
> > >>>>spend that kind of money, I would rather upgrade to a newer board.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Tab
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Yeah, you can still do things with them, but now is the time to jump
> > >>>to an athlon cpu and nforce2 motherboard cheap. For the money you
> > >>>spend on the cubx, you can do much better with a new cpu/motherboard.
> > >>>Good, fast, mature, and cheap.
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.html?i=2001&p=2
> > >>>
> > >>>I wouldn't bother spending any more money on a BX motherboard.
Frankly
> > >>>there isn't THAT much difference between a 600mhz and a 1Ghz BX. If
> > >>>you get it up to 1.4G tualatin, the performance starts to impress,
but
> > >>>it's an expensive and minimal dead end with NO AGP 8x, USB2,
> > >>>firewire, SATA, 400Mhz FSB, sound, and LAN thrown in for free.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>On a purely price/performance/functionality basis, I completely agree.
> > >>
> > >>However, if you place a high value on stability and don't need the
added
> > >>functionality now or in the medium term, upgrading a BX to Tualatin is
> > >>still a reasonable investment - especially if you can get to 133Mhz
FSB
> > >>without replacing the RAM or video. IMHO now is not the time to buy a
> > >>new ATX mobo if there's an upgrade path for your existing board which
> > >>provides the required attributes - BTX is here.
> > >>
> > >>It really depends on your computing needs - all my P2Bs have one or
two
> > >>Tualatins @ 1.5Ghz, 60MB/s SCSI disks, and GF4 video. I probably won't
> > >>*need* to upgrade for a year or more, but it's going to be expensive
> > >>when the time comes...
> > >>
> > >>P2B
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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