p3bf cpu speeds

it has the newest rev and uses the 1.06 bios
"P2B" <p2b.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 >
 >
 > emc2 wrote:
 >
  > > what speeds and setup is available for this board?
 >
 > Depends on revision level, details here:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html</font" target="_blank">http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html</font</a>>
 >
 > HTH
 >
 > P2B
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 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios


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 >
 >
 > emc2 wrote:
 >
  > > what speeds and setup is available for this board?
 >
 > Depends on revision level, details here:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html</font" target="_blank">http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html</font</a>>
 >
 > HTH
 >
 > P2B
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
 >

If you look in bios, you see it.

The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
and 2/3.

This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.

But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
handle such overclocking fine.

The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.

I use the board myself.

I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
MHz).

best regards

John<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

wow..thanks John, you sound like the guy that knows ..
what I'm looking to do is put in the most with the least amount of confusion
and use the same memorey I have now.
I went to geek.com and saw this.....PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz
PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz and the PIII 850MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2

Do you know if these will simply drop in and use my existing memorey?

Thank you


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 > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_ RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  > >sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
  > >
 >
 > If you look in bios, you see it.
 >
 > The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
 > and 2/3.
 >
 > This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.
 >
 > But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
 > overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
 > faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
 > handle such overclocking fine.
 >
 > The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
 > Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.
 >
 > I use the board myself.
 >
 > I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
 > MHz).
 >
 > best regards
 >
 > John
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

emc2 wrote:
 > wow..thanks John, you sound like the guy that knows ..
 > what I'm looking to do is put in the most with the least amount of confusion
 > and use the same memorey I have now.
 > I went to geek.com and saw this.....PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz
 > PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz and the PIII 850MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2
 >
 > Do you know if these will simply drop in and use my existing memorey?

If your existing memory is PC100 or PC133, yes - but if it's PC66, no.

You could also drop in a 1.4Ghz Tualatin Celeron on a Slot-T adapter:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html" target="_blank">http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</a>

That would be cheaper than the Slot-1 PIIIs, and offer better
performance. If your memory is PC133, get the 1.1Ghz upgrade kit and run
it at 133Mhz for even better price/performance.

 >
 > Thank you
 >
 >
 > "JK" <(please reply to group, email invalid) junk DeleteThis @mail.dk> wrote in message
 > news:t5kcg0dd6jedh7sjmlbt1g0jtmppeddt40@4ax.com...
 >
  >>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_ DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
  >>
  >>
   >>>sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
   >>>
  >>
  >>If you look in bios, you see it.
  >>
  >>The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
  >>and 2/3.
  >>
  >>This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.
  >>
  >>But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
  >>overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
  >>faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
  >>handle such overclocking fine.
  >>
  >>The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
  >>Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.
  >>
  >>I use the board myself.
  >>
  >>I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
  >>MHz).
  >>
  >>best regards
  >>
  >>John
  >>
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

i have pc100 memorey


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 >
 >
 > emc2 wrote:
  > > wow..thanks John, you sound like the guy that knows ..
  > > what I'm looking to do is put in the most with the least amount of
confusion
  > > and use the same memorey I have now.
  > > I went to geek.com and saw this.....PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2
100Mhz
  > > PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz and the PIII 850MHz 256KB Slot-1
SECC2
  > >
  > > Do you know if these will simply drop in and use my existing memorey?
 >
 > If your existing memory is PC100 or PC133, yes - but if it's PC66, no.
 >
 > You could also drop in a 1.4Ghz Tualatin Celeron on a Slot-T adapter:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</font" target="_blank">http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</font</a>>
 >
 > That would be cheaper than the Slot-1 PIIIs, and offer better
 > performance. If your memory is PC133, get the 1.1Ghz upgrade kit and run
 > it at 133Mhz for even better price/performance.
 >
  > >
  > > Thank you
  > >
  > >
  > > "JK" <(please reply to group, email invalid) junk RemoveThis @mail.dk> wrote in
message
  > > news:t5kcg0dd6jedh7sjmlbt1g0jtmppeddt40@4ax.com...
  > >
   > >>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_ RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>>sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >>If you look in bios, you see it.
   > >>
   > >>The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
   > >>and 2/3.
   > >>
   > >>This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.
   > >>
   > >>But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
   > >>overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
   > >>faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
   > >>handle such overclocking fine.
   > >>
   > >>The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
   > >>Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.
   > >>
   > >>I use the board myself.
   > >>
   > >>I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
   > >>MHz).
   > >>
   > >>best regards
   > >>
   > >>John
   > >>
  > >
  > >
  > >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

that looks like good advice P2B, have you done this to your system?
84 bucks and change for 1.4 ghz speed sounds awesome.
do you know what I have to do to my mother board for this to be used?
such as switches or what ever else to set?


"P2B" <p2b.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 >
 >
 > emc2 wrote:
  > > wow..thanks John, you sound like the guy that knows ..
  > > what I'm looking to do is put in the most with the
least amount of confusion
  > > and use the same memorey I have now.
  > > I went to geek.com and saw this.....PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2
100Mhz
  > > PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz and the PIII 850MHz 256KB Slot-1
SECC2
  > >
  > > Do you know if these will simply drop in and use my existing memorey?
 >
 > If your existing memory is PC100 or PC133, yes - but if it's PC66, no.
 >
 > You could also drop in a 1.4Ghz Tualatin Celeron on a Slot-T adapter:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</font" target="_blank">http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</font</a>>
 >
 > That would be cheaper than the Slot-1 PIIIs, and offer better
 > performance. If your memory is PC133, get the 1.1Ghz upgrade kit and run
 > it at 133Mhz for even better price/performance.
 >
  > >
  > > Thank you
  > >
  > >
  > > "JK" <(please reply to group, email invalid) junk.TakeThisOut@mail.dk> wrote in
message
  > > news:t5kcg0dd6jedh7sjmlbt1g0jtmppeddt40@4ax.com...
  > >
   > >>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>>sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >>If you look in bios, you see it.
   > >>
   > >>The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
   > >>and 2/3.
   > >>
   > >>This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.
   > >>
   > >>But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
   > >>overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
   > >>faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
   > >>handle such overclocking fine.
   > >>
   > >>The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
   > >>Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.
   > >>
   > >>I use the board myself.
   > >>
   > >>I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
   > >>MHz).
   > >>
   > >>best regards
   > >>
   > >>John
   > >>
  > >
  > >
  > >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

emc2 wrote:

 > that looks like good advice P2B, have you done this to your system?

I have upgraded *many* P2B-x and P3B-x systems using Slot-T adapters and
Tualatin processors. However,I usually upgrade the memory to at least
PC133 and run the FSB at 133Mhz or higher - because memory becomes the
performance bottleneck when you install a 1Ghz+ processor on these boards.

Upgrading the memory as well would give you better performance, but
would also increase your cost considerably unless you can obtain used
PC133 memory cheaply.

I have no hesitation in recommending the Slot-T/Tualatin combo to you -
easy to install and great performance for the price, without
compromising the legendary stability of BX boards.

 > 84 bucks and change for 1.4 ghz speed sounds awesome.

Cheaper than the much slower PIIIs you were considering

Be absolutely sure your P3B-F is revision 1.03 or higher before you
order - older boards cannot supply the correct voltage for the Tualatin CPU.

 > do you know what I have to do to my mother board for this to be used?
 > such as switches or what ever else to set?

You probably won't need to do anything except plug it in - you already
have the latest BIOS (which is required), and are probably already
running at 100Mhz FSB (set the switches to 100Mhz FSB if not). The
default jumper settings on the Slot-T don't need changing.

The first time you power on with the new CPU, the BIOS will probably
complain that "Hardware Monitor found an error". Go into the BIOS power
management page, check that the CPU Vcore is 1.5v (it will say "1.5v
[ERR]"), then set the BIOS to ignore Vcore because 1.5v is correct but
the BIOS thinks it's wrong.

Once it's up and running, you can try a slight overclock - setting the
FSB to 112Mhz will run the CPU at 1.57Ghz, and there's a very good
chance your CPU, memory, and other components will also tolerate a 12%
overclock without problems.

P2B

 > "P2B" <p2b.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
 > news:tuANc.23185$i_2.986702@news20.bellglobal.com...
 >
  >>
  >>emc2 wrote:
  >>
   >>>wow..thanks John, you sound like the guy that knows ..
   >>>what I'm looking to do is put in the most with the
 >
 > least amount of confusion
 >
   >>>and use the same memorey I have now.
   >>>I went to geek.com and saw this.....PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2
 >
 > 100Mhz
 >
   >>>PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz and the PIII 850MHz 256KB Slot-1
 >
 > SECC2
 >
   >>>Do you know if these will simply drop in and use my existing memorey?
  >>
  >>If your existing memory is PC100 or PC133, yes - but if it's PC66, no.
  >>
  >>You could also drop in a 1.4Ghz Tualatin Celeron on a Slot-T adapter:
  >>
  >>http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html
  >>
  >>That would be cheaper than the Slot-1 PIIIs, and offer better
  >>performance. If your memory is PC133, get the 1.1Ghz upgrade kit and run
  >>it at 133Mhz for even better price/performance.
  >>
  >>
   >>>Thank you
   >>>
   >>>
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 >
 > message
 >
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   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>>sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>If you look in bios, you see it.
   >>>>
   >>>>The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
   >>>>and 2/3.
   >>>>
   >>>>This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.
   >>>>
   >>>>But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
   >>>>overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
   >>>>faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
   >>>>handle such overclocking fine.
   >>>>
   >>>>The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
   >>>>Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.
   >>>>
   >>>>I use the board myself.
   >>>>
   >>>>I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
   >>>>MHz).
   >>>>
   >>>>best regards
   >>>>
   >>>>John
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:28:11 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >i have pc100 memorey
 >
 >

BX chipset motherboards like P3B-F does not like all kind of sdram
modules:

- it has to be low density, if high density: it will either not boot
or count up to only half size, what a waist !

- bigger modules than 256 Mb are not compatible

To my knowledge low density modules are not sold today.

I buy the memory second hand. This implies a great risk, since people
do not know in such details what they sell.

Low density sdram er normally double-sided and counts at least (I
think) 8 chips per side.

best regards

John<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds 

Hello P2B,

Do you know where I can buy PIII-S Tualatin 1.4G CPU with 512kb cache?
I wrote stratton computer but they said that they don't have it anymore?
I want to upgrade mine from the current 1.2G Tualeron running at 1.32G @
110MHz.

Thanks.

Roy



P2B wrote:
 >
 >
 > emc2 wrote:
 >
  >> wow..thanks John, you sound like the guy that knows ..
  >> what I'm looking to do is put in the most with the least amount of
  >> confusion
  >> and use the same memorey I have now.
  >> I went to geek.com and saw this.....PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz
  >> PIII 800MHz 256KB Slot-1 SECC2 100Mhz and the PIII 850MHz 256KB Slot-1
  >> SECC2
  >>
  >> Do you know if these will simply drop in and use my existing memorey?
 >
 >
 > If your existing memory is PC100 or PC133, yes - but if it's PC66, no.
 >
 > You could also drop in a 1.4Ghz Tualatin Celeron on a Slot-T adapter:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</font" target="_blank">http://strattoncomputer.com/slcoupadkitw.html</font</a>>
 >
 > That would be cheaper than the Slot-1 PIIIs, and offer better
 > performance. If your memory is PC133, get the 1.1Ghz upgrade kit and run
 > it at 133Mhz for even better price/performance.
 >
  >>
  >> Thank you
  >>
  >>
  >> "JK" <(please reply to group, email invalid) junk.TakeThisOut@mail.dk> wrote in
  >> message
  >> news:t5kcg0dd6jedh7sjmlbt1g0jtmppeddt40@4ax.com...
  >>
   >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:45:15 -0700, "emc2" <emc2_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> sorry.it has the 1008.004 bios
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>> If you look in bios, you see it.
   >>>
   >>> The motherboard has BX chipset, and so it has just 2 agp dividers: 1
   >>> and 2/3.
   >>>
   >>> This is fine for fsb66 and fsb100.
   >>>
   >>> But for fsb133 you miss the agp divider 1/2. So at fsb133 the agp is
   >>> overclocked by 33%. This does not mean that you cannot run fsb133 or
   >>> faster. It just puts some demand on the agp graphics card used. Some
   >>> handle such overclocking fine.
   >>>
   >>> The bios contains fsb settings with either pci divider 1/3 and 1/4.
   >>> Choose the one with 1/4 when going to fsb133 or faster.
   >>>
   >>> I use the board myself.
   >>>
   >>> I run 12x124 with a celeron tualatin 1200. It can't do 12x133 (1600
   >>> MHz).
   >>>
   >>> best regards
   >>>
   >>> John
   >>>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: p3bf cpu speeds