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Since: Feb 17, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:48 am
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all,
first time build -- thought I was careful...
first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy. Then
fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I cannot
understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
(granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
troubles...
Here is the box:
P4C800-E Deluxe
BIOS 1014
P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
Liteon Burner Secondary Master
WD 80GB Primary Master
Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
Floppy
One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
Side case fan
I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next step?
Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just need a
little more help!
JohnH
PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem and
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Since: Feb 21, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:49 am
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I hope you get an answer to this question. I plan on
building a system almost exactly like yours. I will hold off
ordering the parts until your question is answered.
Al
"Tuta" <tuta_23 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> all,
>
> first time build -- thought I was careful...
>
> first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I
was so happy. Then
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete
shutdowns and I cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already
with same results
> (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and
bought an Antec
> TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting
the same
> troubles...
>
> Here is the box:
> P4C800-E Deluxe
> BIOS 1014
> P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> WD 80GB Primary Master
> Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> Floppy
> One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> Side case fan
>
> I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the
machine -- the
> voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can
tell.
>
> Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should
be the next step?
>
> Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo
close just need a
> little more help!
>
> JohnH
>
> PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com ---
mobo/cpu/mem and
> tested.
>
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Since: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:27 am
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"Tuta" <tuta_23 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> all,
>
> first time build -- thought I was careful...
>
> first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy.
Then
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
> (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
> TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> troubles...
>
> Here is the box:
> P4C800-E Deluxe
> BIOS 1014
> P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> WD 80GB Primary Master
> Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> Floppy
> One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> Side case fan
Try other memory. I have a friend with an ASUS board that Kingston value ram
would not work in at all.
My system - -- - - -- - -- - -- -
Antec TruPower 480
P4C800-E Deluxe (BIOS 1014)
P4 2.8C
Kingston HyperX PC3500 1GB Dual Chan Kit
ATI AIW 9800 Pro
Liteon DVD-RW
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Since: Feb 22, 2004 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:31 am
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This sounds like a memory problem. I don't think it has anything to do with
power supply.
Are you using just one stick of memory ? In that case, Why ?
You lose the benefit of dual ddr. It would be much better using two 256 MB
sticks in slot 1 and 3.
Of course the MB will work even with one stick too.
However, what you are describing is a typicle error with memory.
Hope this hint will help
FairMan
"Tuta" <tuta_23.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> all,
>
> first time build -- thought I was careful...
>
> first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy.
Then
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
> (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
> TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> troubles...
>
> Here is the box:
> P4C800-E Deluxe
> BIOS 1014
> P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> WD 80GB Primary Master
> Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> Floppy
> One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> Side case fan
>
> I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
> voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
>
> Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next
step?
>
> Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just need a
> little more help!
>
> JohnH
>
> PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem and
> tested.
>
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Since: Feb 22, 2004 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:17 pm
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My P4C800E-D is very stable. No such problem.
It is quite sensitive, or picky, about components seating and how it is
mounted
on case plate. But once it boots, everything works fine for me.
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"Tuta" <tuta_23 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> all,
>
> first time build -- thought I was careful...
>
> first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy.
Then
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
> (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
> TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> troubles...
>
> Here is the box:
> P4C800-E Deluxe
> BIOS 1014
> P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> WD 80GB Primary Master
> Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> Floppy
> One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> Side case fan
>
> I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
> voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
>
> Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next
step?
>
> Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just need a
> little more help!
>
> JohnH
>
> PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem and
> tested.
>
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Since: Feb 22, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:43 pm
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Hi Tuta,
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
I had similar probs. Changed almost everything. Finally found that upping
the VCore voltage on the cpu sorted it. Dunno why.
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Since: Feb 22, 2004 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:04 pm
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I would also suggest that you try different RAM also; I'm currently
building a similar setup using Corsair memory:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097-17" target="_blank">http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097-17</a>
Wow, memory prices have edged up for some reason (I paid $218.00 for
this exact same memory just last week...)
Another thing, what are your temps like? According to MBM:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://mbm.livewiredev.com/" target="_blank">http://mbm.livewiredev.com/</a>
my idle temps are:
mobo - 23 degrees C
CPU - 29 degrees C
Check the event logs for any device issues also (and Device Manager for
any improperly installed devices).
I haven't done any stress testing or installed any major apps/games but
this rig is rock solid thus far...I'm running Win2K Pro/SP4.
Larry
Tuta wrote:
> all,
>
> first time build -- thought I was careful...
>
> first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy. Then
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
> (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
> TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> troubles...
>
> Here is the box:
> P4C800-E Deluxe
> BIOS 1014
> P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> WD 80GB Primary Master
> Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> Floppy
> One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> Side case fan
>
> I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
> voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
>
> Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next step?
>
> Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just need a
> little more help!
>
> JohnH
>
> PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem and
> tested.
>
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Since: Feb 17, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:27 am
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I do hope to add another stick of 512mb in the future -- figured this would
be a decent first step.
Uptime was over an hour and a half last night.
Two things changed:
1) installed new Antec TruePower 430
2) moved box to kitchen table
I will likely leave it on longer today and see what happens... I hope the
Antec really was the solution.
Thank you all for reading/responding to USENET!
JohnH
"FairMan" <collin.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This sounds like a memory problem. I don't think it has anything to do
with
> power supply.
> Are you using just one stick of memory ? In that case, Why ?
> You lose the benefit of dual ddr. It would be much better using two 256 MB
> sticks in slot 1 and 3.
> Of course the MB will work even with one stick too.
> However, what you are describing is a typicle error with memory.
>
> Hope this hint will help
>
> FairMan
>
> "Tuta" <tuta_23.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:fnQZb.6812$J84.740@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > all,
> >
> > first time build -- thought I was careful...
> >
> > first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy.
> Then
> > fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
> cannot
> > understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same
results
> > (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
> > TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> > troubles...
> >
> > Here is the box:
> > P4C800-E Deluxe
> > BIOS 1014
> > P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> > Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> > Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> > WD 80GB Primary Master
> > Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> > Floppy
> > One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> > Side case fan
> >
> > I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
> > voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
> >
> > Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next
> step?
> >
> > Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just need
a
> > little more help!
> >
> > JohnH
> >
> > PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem and
> > tested.
> >
> >
>
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Since: Feb 17, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:13 am
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All,
Sitting at 45 minutes in the computer room --- no shutdowns as of yet with
the new Antec in the original spot where all the shutdowns were occurring.
JohnH
"Tuta" <tuta_23 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> all,
>
> first time build -- thought I was careful...
>
> first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy.
Then
> fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
cannot
> understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same results
> (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an Antec
> TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> troubles...
>
> Here is the box:
> P4C800-E Deluxe
> BIOS 1014
> P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> WD 80GB Primary Master
> Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> Floppy
> One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> Side case fan
>
> I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
> voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
>
> Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next
step?
>
> Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just need a
> little more help!
>
> JohnH
>
> PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem and
> tested.
>
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Since: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 133
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:52 am
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| All,
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| Sitting at 45 minutes in the computer room --- no shutdowns as of yet with
| the new Antec in the original spot where all the shutdowns were occurring.
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| JohnH
Kickass, score another one for Antec.
I got a TruePower 380S with my Sonata, what one you get?
That TruePower 550 makes me drool.
Philip
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Since: Feb 22, 2004 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:25 pm
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
FairMan
"Tuta" <tuta_23 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> I do hope to add another stick of 512mb in the future -- figured this
would
> be a decent first step.
>
> Uptime was over an hour and a half last night.
>
> Two things changed:
>
> 1) installed new Antec TruePower 430
> 2) moved box to kitchen table
>
> I will likely leave it on longer today and see what happens... I hope the
> Antec really was the solution.
>
> Thank you all for reading/responding to USENET!
>
> JohnH
>
>
> "FairMan" <collin RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:SNZZb.83584$dP1.227547@newsc.telia.net...
> > This sounds like a memory problem. I don't think it has anything to do
> with
> > power supply.
> > Are you using just one stick of memory ? In that case, Why ?
> > You lose the benefit of dual ddr. It would be much better using two 256
MB
> > sticks in slot 1 and 3.
> > Of course the MB will work even with one stick too.
> > However, what you are describing is a typicle error with memory.
> >
> > Hope this hint will help
> >
> > FairMan
> >
> > "Tuta" <tuta_23 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:fnQZb.6812$J84.740@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > all,
> > >
> > > first time build -- thought I was careful...
> > >
> > > first power up, POSTed fine and I was damn near tears I was so happy.
> > Then
> > > fate stepped in. I have been getting random complete shutdowns and I
> > cannot
> > > understand why. I have tried two power supplies already with same
> results
> > > (granted both were off brands). I went ahead today and bought an
Antec
> > > TruePower 430. I will try it as well, but I am expecting the same
> > > troubles...
> > >
> > > Here is the box:
> > > P4C800-E Deluxe
> > > BIOS 1014
> > > P4 -- 2.8 -- 800FSB
> > > Kingston 512MB -- kvr400x64c3a/512
> > > ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128
> > > Liteon Burner Secondary Master
> > > WD 80GB Primary Master
> > > Hitachi 200GB Primary Slave
> > > Floppy
> > > One Rear Case Fan (4 led lighted one)
> > > Side case fan
> > >
> > > I have managed to actually install Win XP Home on the machine -- the
> > > voltages in BIOS have checked out fine as far as I can tell.
> > >
> > > Assuming the Antec 430w is not the solution - what should be the next
> > step?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your help out there -- I think I am sooo close just
need
> a
> > > little more help!
> > >
> > > JohnH
> > >
> > > PS -- This was a motherboard bundle from Mwave.com --- mobo/cpu/mem
and
> > > tested.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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