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Steve53

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Since: May 05, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:08 pm
Post subject: Why no password check to establish a connection?
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Hi All.

WXP SP1 Pro. Using, what used to be called, BTOpenworld/broadband/ADSL. I
don't use (as far as I know) any of the "dialer" or Yahoo specific software.

I have only just recently noticed that when I go to Start > Connect To > BT
I can click on OK without a password. Or with something that I know is NOT
the correct password. And yet it will always connect. Surely there should be
some password checking?

There appears to be password checking to get to email but that it is not
necessary to be able to connect to the Internet and browse???

Thanks for any help

Steve

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Ghostrider1

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Since: Mar 19, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Why no password check to establish a connection? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Steve wrote:

 > Hi All.
 >
 > WXP SP1 Pro. Using, what used to be called, BTOpenworld/broadband/ADSL. I
 > don't use (as far as I know) any of the "dialer" or Yahoo specific software.
 >
 > I have only just recently noticed that when I go to Start > Connect To > BT
 > I can click on OK without a password. Or with something that I know is NOT
 > the correct password. And yet it will always connect. Surely there should be
 > some password checking?
 >
 > There appears to be password checking to get to email but that it is not
 > necessary to be able to connect to the Internet and browse???
 >
 > Thanks for any help
 >
 > Steve
 >
 >

If there is just a single user, WinXP probably created a
"default" network logon that identifies the computer/user,
especially if static IP's are involved. The identification
could be the NIC's MAC and/or WinXP's SID.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Steve53

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Why no password check to establish a connection? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Sorry. Wrong Board. Creeps away...


Steve

"Steve" <steve@.> wrote in message
news:c7asgn$hhq$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
 > Hi All.
 >
 > WXP SP1 Pro. Using, what used to be called, BTOpenworld/broadband/ADSL. I
 > don't use (as far as I know) any of the "dialer" or Yahoo specific
software.
 >
 > I have only just recently noticed that when I go to Start > Connect To >
BT
 > I can click on OK without a password. Or with something that I know is NOT
 > the correct password. And yet it will always connect. Surely there should
be
 > some password checking?
 >
 > There appears to be password checking to get to email but that it is not
 > necessary to be able to connect to the Internet and browse???
 >
 > Thanks for any help
 >
 > Steve
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Paul4

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Why no password check to establish a connection? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <c7at2g$ih2$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, "Steve" <steve@.> wrote:

 > Sorry. Wrong Board. Creeps away...
 >

I have seen claims that some providers authenticate via MAC address.
If you change the hardware at your end, chances are the "free lunch"
will stop working (unless you hack the MAC address, which is not the
same thing as an IP address - MAC is confined to the wire from you
to BT).

Paul

 >
 > Steve
 >
 > "Steve" <steve@.> wrote in message
 > news:c7asgn$hhq$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
  > > Hi All.
  > >
  > > WXP SP1 Pro. Using, what used to be called, BTOpenworld/broadband/ADSL. I
  > > don't use (as far as I know) any of the "dialer" or Yahoo specific
 > software.
  > >
  > > I have only just recently noticed that when I go to Start > Connect To >
 > BT
  > > I can click on OK without a password. Or with something that I know is NOT
  > > the correct password. And yet it will always connect. Surely there should
 > be
  > > some password checking?
  > >
  > > There appears to be password checking to get to email but that it is not
  > > necessary to be able to connect to the Internet and browse???
  > >
  > > Thanks for any help
  > >
  > > Steve
  > >
  > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Phil17

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Since: May 04, 2004
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 12:52 am
Post subject: Re: Why no password check to establish a connection? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Paul" <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote in message
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 > In article <c7at2g$ih2$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, "Steve" <steve@.> wrote:
 >
  > > Sorry. Wrong Board. Creeps away...
  > >
 >
 > I have seen claims that some providers authenticate via MAC address.
 > If you change the hardware at your end, chances are the "free lunch"
 > will stop working (unless you hack the MAC address, which is not the
 > same thing as an IP address - MAC is confined to the wire from you
 > to BT).
 >
 > Paul
 >

There's no password because the form of authentication is the phone number
of the line used for ADSL, and I think anybody trying to "hack" your
connection would find it very difficult physically disconnecting your line
from your address, and re-routing it to them...unlike 56k etc, ADSL is bound
to the line you have it installed on.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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