pentax

is it just the 5x zoom?

"Gymy Bob" <nothanx RemoveThis @bight.me> wrote in message
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 > SV has 5x optical zoom.
 > I have the SV and the 550. Both excellent cameras. Miles ahead of most. I
 > also have a fuji 1mp and a fuji 2mp and owned a Kyocera 5mp for two
 > months.
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  >> the S5i or fork out the extra for the Sv?
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No! Fabulous camera and I thought that went without saying. Compared to any
other camera I have seen it is way out ahead. too many features to even
begin.

Manual overrides on everything and very well done. The manual focus has an 8
times auto zoom to focus and then when you pause it zooms back to full
frame.

Missing? 640x480 movie mode. Only has 320 x 240 like most others.

I can fit three of them in a shirt pocket. It will always be in the wife's
purse.

Haven't used up a LioN battery charge yet over the season's pics but with my
550 I can take for a week of shooting with about 400 shots and never have to
charge the battery. That would have taking half a dozen AA NiMh charges on
any other cameras I had.




"John" <me RemoveThis @home.cmo> wrote in message
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 > is it just the 5x zoom?
 >
 > "Gymy Bob" <nothanx RemoveThis @bight.me> wrote in message
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  > > SV has 5x optical zoom.
  > > I have the SV and the 550. Both excellent cameras. Miles ahead of most.
I
  > > also have a fuji 1mp and a fuji 2mp and owned a Kyocera 5mp for two
  > > months.
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  > > "John" <me RemoveThis @home.cmo> wrote in message
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   > >> the S5i or fork out the extra for the Sv?
   > >>
   > >> John
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  > >
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 > is it just the 5x zoom?
 >

What else is there? The optical zoom is real, the digital zoom is FAKE.

FAKE zoom = no zoom

Just my opinion.

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Yes digital zoom is only a sales technique and I really don't see anybody
with half a brain even using it. Just crap sales hype.

"kirk_" <kirk DeleteThis @1st.net> wrote in message
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  > > is it just the 5x zoom?
  > >
 >
 > What else is there? The optical zoom is real, the digital zoom is FAKE.
 >
 > FAKE zoom = no zoom
 >
 > Just my opinion.
 >
 > Kirk
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kirk_ wrote:

  >> is it just the 5x zoom?
  >>
 >
 > What else is there? The optical zoom is real, the digital zoom is FAKE.
 >
 > FAKE zoom = no zoom
 >
 > Just my opinion.
 >
 > Kirk

Yep, it's "fake", but it's still usable for some scenarios. If you don't
take pictures at full resolution, the digital zoom is just as good as
optical with full resolution. A good camera offers the option to
automatically disable digital zoom when taking pictures at full res and,
when taking less than full size pictures, to adjust its factor so there
will be no lossy zooming.

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It may be used for some scenarios, but isn't needed. Shoot at the highest
resolution for your digital camera with the digital zoom disabled. Later,
you can crop what you want with Photoshop or whatever program you use.

Digital zoom is only cropping out unwanted pixels.

I am of the opinion that Digital zoom specs on cameras are only a marketing
trick to sell cameras to unsuspecting and uninformed consumers.

Just my opinion,

Kirk


 > Yep, it's "fake", but it's still usable for some scenarios. If you don't
 > take pictures at full resolution, the digital zoom is just as good as
 > optical with full resolution. A good camera offers the option to
 > automatically disable digital zoom when taking pictures at full res and,
 > when taking less than full size pictures, to adjust its factor so there
 > will be no lossy zooming.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Kirk_ wrote:

 > It may be used for some scenarios, but isn't needed. Shoot at the highest
 > resolution for your digital camera with the digital zoom disabled. Later,
 > you can crop what you want with Photoshop or whatever program you use.
 >
 > Digital zoom is only cropping out unwanted pixels.
 >

I agree that that is how it works, but even if the usability is narrow, it
makes sense if you shoot smaller pictures and have limited storage space.
And also, if you crop it later in Photoshop, you'll be recompressing it
again, so you'd end up with double JPEG loss. Provided, of course, that you
didn't shoot in RAW format

 > I am of the opinion that Digital zoom specs on cameras are only a
 > marketing trick to sell cameras to unsuspecting and uninformed consumers.
 >
 > Just my opinion,
 >

Oh, I agree, and I get downright angry when I see a camcorder with "700x
Digital Zoom" - it's like their saying, "we know you're retarded morons, so
we'll just write this crap, even if it really means you'll be able to zoom
far enough in on the already captured image so that a single pixel fills
your entire screen." It wasn't untill I played around with my parents' Sony
V1 (2x digital zoom if I remember correctly), that I discovered that
digital zooming could actually be used for something, even if it wasn't
exactly every-day scenarios

 > Kirk
 >
 >

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Daniel,

I will concede on the double JPEG compression point.

When I crop for the internet, I don't worry about it, when I crop a Digital
Photo for print use, I always convert to PSD before I crop. That way it
isn't compressed again after cropping. I need PSD anyways, because I like
to use color correction layers instead of changing the original pixel
colors.

Kirk


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 > Kirk_ wrote:
 >
  >> It may be used for some scenarios, but isn't needed. Shoot at the
  >> highest
  >> resolution for your digital camera with the digital zoom disabled.
  >> Later,
  >> you can crop what you want with Photoshop or whatever program you use.
  >>
  >> Digital zoom is only cropping out unwanted pixels.
  >>
 >
 > I agree that that is how it works, but even if the usability is narrow, it
 > makes sense if you shoot smaller pictures and have limited storage space.
 > And also, if you crop it later in Photoshop, you'll be recompressing it
 > again, so you'd end up with double JPEG loss. Provided, of course, that
 > you
 > didn't shoot in RAW format
 >
  >> I am of the opinion that Digital zoom specs on cameras are only a
  >> marketing trick to sell cameras to unsuspecting and uninformed consumers.
  >>
  >> Just my opinion,
  >>
 >
 > Oh, I agree, and I get downright angry when I see a camcorder with "700x
 > Digital Zoom" - it's like their saying, "we know you're retarded morons,
 > so
 > we'll just write this crap, even if it really means you'll be able to zoom
 > far enough in on the already captured image so that a single pixel fills
 > your entire screen." It wasn't untill I played around with my parents'
 > Sony
 > V1 (2x digital zoom if I remember correctly), that I discovered that
 > digital zooming could actually be used for something, even if it wasn't
 > exactly every-day scenarios
 >
  >> Kirk
  >>
  >>
 >
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 > guy - it's sort of a two-person pyramid scheme." --Bender<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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kirk_ wrote:

 > Daniel,
 >
 > I will concede on the double JPEG compression point.
 >
 > When I crop for the internet, I don't worry about it, when I crop a
 > Digital
 > Photo for print use, I always convert to PSD before I crop. That way it
 > isn't compressed again after cropping. I need PSD anyways, because I like
 > to use color correction layers instead of changing the original pixel
 > colors.
 >
 > Kirk
 >
 >

You know what, this got me thinking that, theoretically, it should be
possible to crop jpegs without recompressing, as long as you cropped full
blocks. So I searched Google, and whaddayaknow, a tool to do this does
indeed exist. Thought you might find it useful too, check it out:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://graphicssoft.about.com/b/a/041577.htm" target="_blank">http://graphicssoft.about.com/b/a/041577.htm</a>

Cheers,
Daniel

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