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Barend

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 am
Post subject: Any point in using PC4000 memory?
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Hi all,
Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
Thanks

Barend

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 am
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Not unless you plan to overclock the he** out of it.

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"Barend" <radio_man.RemoveThis@usa.net> wrote in message
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 > Hi all,
 > Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
 > P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
 > It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
 > Thanks
 >
 > Barend<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 am
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If you do not intend to overclock no. At present I am overclocking a
p4 2.8ht and PC3700 ram at 948 fsb (intead of 800 fsb) CPU:ram ratio
is 1:1.

If you use slower ram and overclock you will eventually have to use a
slower ram ratio to maintain stability.

If the price diff is not too great go for the faster ram, but don't
go to value ram (the name says it all).

Locust

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:06:36 +0100, Barend <radio_man.RemoveThis@usa.net> wrote:

 >Hi all,
 >Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
 >P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
 >It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
 >Thanks
 >
 >Barend<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 am
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:06:36 +0100, Barend <radio_man RemoveThis @usa.net> wrote:

 >Hi all,
 >Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
 >P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
 >It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
 >Thanks
 >
 >Barend

Generally no need for the fast stuff. Intensive operations like video
encoding on P4 systems can benefit from memory that can handle fast
timing settings o/w save your bux.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:15 pm
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"Barend" <radio_man.RemoveThis@usa.net> wrote in message
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 > Hi all,
 > Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
 > P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
 > It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
 > Thanks
 >
If you don't overclock, most PC3200 will run faster than PC4000 at 200 MHz,
because they can run at better latencies (cas 2-3-3-6 or better), while
PC4000 have generally latencies of 3-4-4-8 or worse.
If later on you should decide to overclock, you could still set the mem
ratio at 5:4, which allows you to increase the fsb speed up to 250 MHz where
the DDR reaches it's nominal speed of 200 MHz.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Barend

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:23 pm
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In article <MPG.1a768f7acdb8266d989755 RemoveThis @news.xs4all.nl>,
radio_man RemoveThis @usa.net says...
 > Hi all,
 > Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
 > P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
 > It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
 > Thanks
 >
 > Barend
 >
Thanks guys,
Now I am beginning to understand where these ratios came from- memory!
I thought it had something to to with the Pentium P4 ratio- which is
fixed.
Cheers<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:25 pm
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you can alter the memory timings though so with pc4000 you may get fast
timings between 200-250fsb.

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:15:31 GMT, "ElJerid"
<s.vanderhaeghen.nospam RemoveThis @pandora.be> wrote:

 >:>
<snip>
 >:>If you don't overclock, most PC3200 will run faster than PC4000 at 200 MHz,
 >:>because they can run at better latencies (cas 2-3-3-6 or better), while
 >:>PC4000 have generally latencies of 3-4-4-8 or worse.
 >:>If later on you should decide to overclock, you could still set the mem
 >:>ratio at 5:4, which allows you to increase the fsb speed up to 250 MHz where
 >:>the DDR reaches it's nominal speed of 200 MHz.
 >:>

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:12 am
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"Lee" <leecomp RemoveThis @REMOVETHISblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > you can alter the memory timings though so with pc4000 you may get fast
 > timings between 200-250fsb.

Actually, that is not the case. Many PC4000 sticks flat will not run below
CAS 2.5.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:39 am
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"Barend" <radio_man.TakeThisOut@usa.net> wrote in message
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 > Hi all,
 > Is there any point in buying PC4000 or even PC4400 memory for my
 > P4C800E-DeLuxe, since it will only be run at 400 (2x200) MHz?
 > It's a lot more expensive than the PC3200 variety...
 > Thanks

Only if you want to overclock, or use it in your next system which will
likely have a higher FSB.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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An Unexploded Scot

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:01 am
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:12:31 GMT, "Skid" <skid2.TakeThisOut@comcast.NOSPAM.net>
wrote:

 >
 >"Lee" <leecomp.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHISblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
 >news:kb0r00dgin6llet4a2gi614mc1pahqcpn1@4ax.com...
  >> you can alter the memory timings though so with pc4000 you may get fast
  >> timings between 200-250fsb.
 >
 >Actually, that is not the case. Many PC4000 sticks flat will not run below
 >CAS 2.5.
 >

Too true. I've got two sticks of OCZ PC4000 Gold running in a P4P800-D
and they run fine at 260mHz @ 1:1 but start crapping out if I try
tightening the timings (even at 200 fsb). I suspect I could go faster
but this motherboard only supports 2.85 VDIMM (and I'm not comfortable
trying to mod that).<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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