printer switchbox problems

Did the switch come with software that you installed onto
both machines? Some sort of special driver is required
to make this scheme work.

"Noozer" <dont.spam RemoveThis @me.here> wrote in message
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 > "Towli" <towli RemoveThis @oldboyz.dk> wrote in message
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  >>
  >> Hi all
  >> I bought a printer switchbox
  >> (http://sandberg.dk/worldwide/prod.asp?prod=501-03) for a customer (2
  >> machines 1 printer).
  >> When powered on independently both can print through the switchbox
  >> but
 > with
  >> both powered on only the machine powered on first gets to print, the
  >> other
  >> one just hangs and its printjob only is carried out upon turning of
  >> the
  >> first machine to enter the network (2 machines on 1 switch).
  >>
  >> Why cant they both use the printer at the same time - i thought that
  >> was
 > the
  >> general idea about a printer switchbox...???
 >
 > How does the box know when the first computer has finished printing?
 > There
 > is no "end of job" protocol for printers so once a printer starts
 > printing
 > it takes over the box. Most will give up the connection after 10
 > minutes of
 > no data, but not all.
 >
 > To be honest, this is a waste and not the way to go.
 >
 > Get a network print server and connect to the printer using network
 > cables.
 > All the computers in our office can print to the same printer without
 > any
 > problems.
 >
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:04:22 GMT, "Noozer" <dont.spam.DeleteThis@me.here> wrote:

 >
 >"Towli" <towli.DeleteThis@oldboyz.dk> wrote in message
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  >>
  >> Hi all
  >> I bought a printer switchbox
  >> (http://sandberg.dk/worldwide/prod.asp?prod=501-03) for a customer (2
  >> machines 1 printer).
  >> When powered on independently both can print through the switchbox but
 >with
  >> both powered on only the machine powered on first gets to print, the other
  >> one just hangs and its printjob only is carried out upon turning of the
  >> first machine to enter the network (2 machines on 1 switch).
  >>
  >> Why cant they both use the printer at the same time - i thought that was
 >the
  >> general idea about a printer switchbox...???
 >
 >How does the box know when the first computer has finished printing? There
 >is no "end of job" protocol for printers so once a printer starts printing
 >it takes over the box. Most will give up the connection after 10 minutes of
 >no data, but not all.
 >
 >To be honest, this is a waste and not the way to go.
 >
 >Get a network print server and connect to the printer using network cables.
 >All the computers in our office can print to the same printer without any
 >problems.
 >


Towli,
  Don't listen to this guy, he doesn't have a clue. He
obviously assumes that everyone is interested in running a network in
order to enjoy shared services, and doesn't realize that sometimes
someone might just want to share a printer between two computers.
  I've used boxes like this for many years supporting customers
of all types. When they work well, they work very well. When they
don't work, they can be a real pain in the ass.
  The first thing to do is determine how the box determines when
a print job is started and stopped. Tell me... when you first start
up your system, do the LED's on top of the box alternate from one
computer cable to the other?


Raymond Sirois
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:26:49 -0500, "Pen" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:

 >Did the switch come with software that you installed onto
 >both machines? Some sort of special driver is required
 >to make this scheme work.
 >

Not necessarily so. Many of these switches merely monitor the
channels for traffic. The existance of traffic indicates a printjob
in progress, the absence of data flow indicates the channel has been
released.

 >"Noozer" <dont.spam RemoveThis @me.here> wrote in message
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  >> "Towli" <towli RemoveThis @oldboyz.dk> wrote in message
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   >>>
   >>> Hi all
   >>> I bought a printer switchbox
   >>> (http://sandberg.dk/worldwide/prod.asp?prod=501-03) for a customer (2
   >>> machines 1 printer).
   >>> When powered on independently both can print through the switchbox
   >>> but
  >> with
   >>> both powered on only the machine powered on first gets to print, the
   >>> other
   >>> one just hangs and its printjob only is carried out upon turning of
   >>> the
   >>> first machine to enter the network (2 machines on 1 switch).
   >>>
   >>> Why cant they both use the printer at the same time - i thought that
   >>> was
  >> the
   >>> general idea about a printer switchbox...???
  >>
  >> How does the box know when the first computer has finished printing?
  >> There
  >> is no "end of job" protocol for printers so once a printer starts
  >> printing
  >> it takes over the box. Most will give up the connection after 10
  >> minutes of
  >> no data, but not all.
  >>
  >> To be honest, this is a waste and not the way to go.
  >>
  >> Get a network print server and connect to the printer using network
  >> cables.
  >> All the computers in our office can print to the same printer without
  >> any
  >> problems.
  >>
  >>

Raymond Sirois
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607-733-5745
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 > The first thing to do is determine how the box determines when
 > a print job is started and stopped. Tell me... when you first start
 > up your system, do the LED's on top of the box alternate from one
 > computer cable to the other?
 >

As far as i remember (the switch is located on another location in
Copenhagen) the leds are allways lit when the machines are powered on.
The switch came with no drivers (or power supply).

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It's possible that the problem may be in your printer cables. Do you
know whether the cables are fully bidirectionally compliant?

Towli wrote:

 > Hi all
 > I bought a printer switchbox
 > (http://sandberg.dk/worldwide/prod.asp?prod=501-03) for a customer (2
 > machines 1 printer).
 > When powered on independently both can print through the switchbox but with
 > both powered on only the machine powered on first gets to print, the other
 > one just hangs and its printjob only is carried out upon turning of the
 > first machine to enter the network (2 machines on 1 switch).
 >
 > Why cant they both use the printer at the same time - i thought that was the
 > general idea about a printer switchbox...???
 >
 > Thanx for any help (at all)
 >
 > /T
 >
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Actually i solved the problem by disabling bidirectional in printer/port
properties...
What could that indicate?
(The printer is a HP Laserjet6p)

(Thanx for answering)

/T


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 > On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:26:49 -0500, "Pen" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
 >
  > >Did the switch come with software that you installed onto
  > >both machines? Some sort of special driver is required
  > >to make this scheme work.
  > >
 >
 > Not necessarily so. Many of these switches merely monitor the
 > channels for traffic. The existance of traffic indicates a printjob
 > in progress, the absence of data flow indicates the channel has been
 > released.
 >
  > >"Noozer" <dont.spam RemoveThis @me.here> wrote in message
  > >news:WeItd.460436$nl.385610@pd7tw3no...
   > >>
   > >> "Towli" <towli RemoveThis @oldboyz.dk> wrote in message
   > >> news:cp7gcj$1fj8$1@news.cybercity.dk...
   > >>>
   > >>> Hi all
   > >>> I bought a printer switchbox
   > >>> (http://sandberg.dk/worldwide/prod.asp?prod=501-03) for a customer (2
   > >>> machines 1 printer).
   > >>> When powered on independently both can print through the switchbox
   > >>> but
   > >> with
   > >>> both powered on only the machine powered on first gets to print, the
   > >>> other
   > >>> one just hangs and its printjob only is carried out upon turning of
   > >>> the
   > >>> first machine to enter the network (2 machines on 1 switch).
   > >>>
   > >>> Why cant they both use the printer at the same time - i thought that
   > >>> was
   > >> the
   > >>> general idea about a printer switchbox...???
   > >>
   > >> How does the box know when the first computer has finished printing?
   > >> There
   > >> is no "end of job" protocol for printers so once a printer starts
   > >> printing
   > >> it takes over the box. Most will give up the connection after 10
   > >> minutes of
   > >> no data, but not all.
   > >>
   > >> To be honest, this is a waste and not the way to go.
   > >>
   > >> Get a network print server and connect to the printer using network
   > >> cables.
   > >> All the computers in our office can print to the same printer without
   > >> any
   > >> problems.
   > >>
   > >>
 >
 > Raymond Sirois
 > SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
 > 607-733-5745
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   > >> Hi all
   > >> I bought a printer switchbox
   > >> (http://sandberg.dk/worldwide/prod.asp?prod=501-03) for a customer (2
   > >> machines 1 printer).
   > >> When powered on independently both can print through the switchbox but
  > >with
   > >> both powered on only the machine powered on first gets to print, the
other
   > >> one just hangs and its printjob only is carried out upon turning of the
   > >> first machine to enter the network (2 machines on 1 switch).
   > >>
   > >> Why cant they both use the printer at the same time - i thought that
was
  > >the
   > >> general idea about a printer switchbox...???
  > >
  > >How does the box know when the first computer has finished printing?
There
  > >is no "end of job" protocol for printers so once a printer starts
printing
  > >it takes over the box. Most will give up the connection after 10 minutes
of
  > >no data, but not all.
  > >
  > >To be honest, this is a waste and not the way to go.
  > >
  > >Get a network print server and connect to the printer using network
cables.
  > >All the computers in our office can print to the same printer without any
  > >problems.

 > Don't listen to this guy, he doesn't have a clue.

Someone who thinks they are a support tech, but can't learn networking,
thinks his jobs in danger... OH NO!

 > He
 > obviously assumes that everyone is interested in running a network in
 > order to enjoy shared services, and doesn't realize that sometimes
 > someone might just want to share a printer between two computers.

I posted a good repsonse to a vague question. If you want to share resources
networking IS what you want to do.

 > I've used boxes like this for many years supporting customers
 > of all types. When they work well, they work very well. When they
 > don't work, they can be a real pain in the ass.

Most folks don't use DOS anymore. Better update your skills.

 > The first thing to do is determine how the box determines when
 > a print job is started and stopped.

Funny... this is exactly what I said, but you think I don't know what I'm
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