problem: MSI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB (RX9800-TD128) and 3D ..

Sounds like you did not get the video driver loaded corectly. Did you first
uninstall the nvidia driver? You would need to do that. What version of
ATI catalist driver did you load?

DaveL


"Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr.DeleteThis@actcom.net.il> wrote in message
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 > anyone? please, give me ideas
 >
 >
 > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr.DeleteThis@actcom.net.il> wrote in message
 > news:newscache$dnmg3i$r35$1@news.actcom.co.il...
  > > Hello
  > >
  > > I recently istalled a MSI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB
  > > What i had before is a GeForce 4 MX 440
  > >
  > > I use 3D Studio MAX once in a while...
  > >
  > > now with the old card MAX used to work quite ok
  > > but now it works really slow. it is set to use OpenGL
  > >
  > > i also tried to use the Software driver which had pretty
  > > much the same performance as the OpenGL one
  > > and also Direct3D which was slower, in fact much
  > > much slower!
  > >
  > > does anybody have a solution for this problem?
  > > I really dont want to quit using MAX...
  > >
  > > thanks in advance
  > >
  > >
 >
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Nissim Trifonov wrote:

 > anyone? please, give me ideas
 >
 >
 > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr.RemoveThis@actcom.net.il> wrote in message
 > news:newscache$dnmg3i$r35$1@news.actcom.co.il...
  > > Hello
  > >
  > > I recently istalled a MSI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB
  > > What i had before is a GeForce 4 MX 440
  > >
  > > I use 3D Studio MAX once in a while...
  > >
  > > now with the old card MAX used to work quite ok
  > > but now it works really slow. it is set to use OpenGL
  > >
  > > i also tried to use the Software driver which had pretty
  > > much the same performance as the OpenGL one
  > > and also Direct3D which was slower, in fact much
  > > much slower!
  > >
  > > does anybody have a solution for this problem?
  > > I really dont want to quit using MAX...
  > >
  > > thanks in advance
  > >
  > >


Which Radeon card are you using? Because of the CAD rendering no
gaming card copes particularly well with 3d Studio Max you really need
a FireGL or Quaddro from ATI and Nvidia respectively.

regards

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i uninstalled the nvidia driver and then used a driver cleaner
then i installed the latest driver that i downloaded from the MSI web site
(my card is manufactored by MSI)

also i tried to uninstall MAX and reinstall it. but i might have not done it
so well
because when i reinstalled it "remembred" the old folder when it was
installed
and also it did not ask me to authorze it.


"DaveL" <dave1027 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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 > Sounds like you did not get the video driver loaded corectly. Did you
first
 > uninstall the nvidia driver? You would need to do that. What version of
 > ATI catalist driver did you load?
 >
 > DaveL
 >
 >
 > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr RemoveThis @actcom.net.il> wrote in message
 > news:newscache$ifli3i$uo7$1@news.actcom.co.il...
  > > anyone? please, give me ideas
  > >
  > >
  > > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr RemoveThis @actcom.net.il> wrote in message
  > > news:newscache$dnmg3i$r35$1@news.actcom.co.il...
   > > > Hello
   > > >
   > > > I recently istalled a MSI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB
   > > > What i had before is a GeForce 4 MX 440
   > > >
   > > > I use 3D Studio MAX once in a while...
   > > >
   > > > now with the old card MAX used to work quite ok
   > > > but now it works really slow. it is set to use OpenGL
   > > >
   > > > i also tried to use the Software driver which had pretty
   > > > much the same performance as the OpenGL one
   > > > and also Direct3D which was slower, in fact much
   > > > much slower!
   > > >
   > > > does anybody have a solution for this problem?
   > > > I really dont want to quit using MAX...
   > > >
   > > > thanks in advance
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
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Try deleting the max .ini file and letting it give you a chance to select
the video mode to use when you first start it up again.

"Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr.DeleteThis@actcom.net.il> wrote in message
news:newscache$8kak3i$88o$1@news.actcom.co.il...
 >i uninstalled the nvidia driver and then used a driver cleaner
 > then i installed the latest driver that i downloaded from the MSI web site
 > (my card is manufactored by MSI)
 >
 > also i tried to uninstall MAX and reinstall it. but i might have not done
 > it
 > so well
 > because when i reinstalled it "remembred" the old folder when it was
 > installed
 > and also it did not ask me to authorze it.
 >
 >
 > "DaveL" <dave1027.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
 > news:1a6dneDmxtcp-KfcRVn-vg@comcast.com...
  >> Sounds like you did not get the video driver loaded corectly. Did you
 > first
  >> uninstall the nvidia driver? You would need to do that. What version of
  >> ATI catalist driver did you load?
  >>
  >> DaveL
  >>
  >>
  >> "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr.DeleteThis@actcom.net.il> wrote in message
  >> news:newscache$ifli3i$uo7$1@news.actcom.co.il...
   >> > anyone? please, give me ideas
   >> >
   >> >
   >> > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr.DeleteThis@actcom.net.il> wrote in message
   >> > news:newscache$dnmg3i$r35$1@news.actcom.co.il...
   >> > > Hello
   >> > >
   >> > > I recently istalled a MSI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB
   >> > > What i had before is a GeForce 4 MX 440
   >> > >
   >> > > I use 3D Studio MAX once in a while...
   >> > >
   >> > > now with the old card MAX used to work quite ok
   >> > > but now it works really slow. it is set to use OpenGL
   >> > >
   >> > > i also tried to use the Software driver which had pretty
   >> > > much the same performance as the OpenGL one
   >> > > and also Direct3D which was slower, in fact much
   >> > > much slower!
   >> > >
   >> > > does anybody have a solution for this problem?
   >> > > I really dont want to quit using MAX...
   >> > >
   >> > > thanks in advance
   >> > >
   >> > >
   >> >
   >> >
  >>
 >
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no, that did not help
what about installing differend drivers? like drivers from ATI instead from
MSI? or that Omega drivers?
could it help?


"n.heyen" <n.heyen RemoveThis @insightbb.com> wrote in message
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 > Try deleting the max .ini file and letting it give you a chance to select
 > the video mode to use when you first start it up again.
 >
 > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr RemoveThis @actcom.net.il> wrote in message
 > news:newscache$8kak3i$88o$1@news.actcom.co.il...
  > >i uninstalled the nvidia driver and then used a driver cleaner
  > > then i installed the latest driver that i downloaded from the MSI web
site
  > > (my card is manufactored by MSI)
  > >
  > > also i tried to uninstall MAX and reinstall it. but i might have not
done
  > > it
  > > so well
  > > because when i reinstalled it "remembred" the old folder when it was
  > > installed
  > > and also it did not ask me to authorze it.
  > >
  > >
  > > "DaveL" <dave1027 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
  > > news:1a6dneDmxtcp-KfcRVn-vg@comcast.com...
   > >> Sounds like you did not get the video driver loaded corectly. Did you
  > > first
   > >> uninstall the nvidia driver? You would need to do that. What version
of
   > >> ATI catalist driver did you load?
   > >>
   > >> DaveL
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr RemoveThis @actcom.net.il> wrote in message
   > >> news:newscache$ifli3i$uo7$1@news.actcom.co.il...
   > >> > anyone? please, give me ideas
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >> > "Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr RemoveThis @actcom.net.il> wrote in message
   > >> > news:newscache$dnmg3i$r35$1@news.actcom.co.il...
   > >> > > Hello
   > >> > >
   > >> > > I recently istalled a MSI Radeon 9800 PRO 128 MB
   > >> > > What i had before is a GeForce 4 MX 440
   > >> > >
   > >> > > I use 3D Studio MAX once in a while...
   > >> > >
   > >> > > now with the old card MAX used to work quite ok
   > >> > > but now it works really slow. it is set to use OpenGL
   > >> > >
   > >> > > i also tried to use the Software driver which had pretty
   > >> > > much the same performance as the OpenGL one
   > >> > > and also Direct3D which was slower, in fact much
   > >> > > much slower!
   > >> > >
   > >> > > does anybody have a solution for this problem?
   > >> > > I really dont want to quit using MAX...
   > >> > >
   > >> > > thanks in advance
   > >> > >
   > >> > >
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >>
  > >
  > >
 >
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"Nissim Trifonov" <nissimtr RemoveThis @actcom.net.il> wrote in message
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 > no, that did not help
 > what about installing differend drivers? like drivers from ATI instead
from
 > MSI? or that Omega drivers?
 > could it help?
 >
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