is this a problem?

"Paul Clarke" <me DeleteThis @here.com> wrote in message
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> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB)
> 500,1000Mhz, Win XP SP2, 9.0c
>
> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>
> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed

11333 with a run just now and 71.89 drivers. I'd think your rig should
score up there too.
McG.
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

I have the 77.72 drivers.


"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT.TakeThisOut@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul Clarke" <me.TakeThisOut@here.com> wrote in message
> news:dak6dp$ik2$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com
>> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB)
>> 500,1000Mhz, Win XP SP2, 9.0c
>>
>> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>>
>> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed
>
> Ok, good. Now what Nvidia graphics driver set do you have installed?
>
> Running a P4-3.0E, 2gb PC3200 @ ddr400 dual channel, GA-8IPE1000-G, eVGA
> 6800GT (350/1000), XP Pro SP2, DX 9.0c, nVidia 71.89 = 3DMark03 is 11,000
> McG.
>
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

Thats what I think, I should be touching 9k at least but can't see my bottle
neck.

the AGP is running at 8x with fast writes and SBA.


"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT.DeleteThis@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul Clarke" <me.DeleteThis@here.com> wrote in message
> news:dak6dp$ik2$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com
>> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB)
>> 500,1000Mhz, Win XP SP2, 9.0c
>>
>> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>>
>> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed
>
> 11333 with a run just now and 71.89 drivers. I'd think your rig should
> score up there too.
> McG.
>
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

>
> the AGP is running at 8x with fast writes and SBA.
>

Just for fun, try running AGP at 4x and disable fast writes - what are your
scores now?

Chris
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

"Paul Clarke" <me DeleteThis @here.com> wrote in message
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> Thats what I think, I should be touching 9k at least but can't see my
> bottle neck.
>
> the AGP is running at 8x with fast writes and SBA.
>
>
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT DeleteThis @NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:R3jze.100280$j51.28130@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "Paul Clarke" <me DeleteThis @here.com> wrote in message
>> news:dak6dp$ik2$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com
>>> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB)
>>> 500,1000Mhz, Win XP SP2, 9.0c
>>>
>>> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>>>
>>> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed
>>
>> 11333 with a run just now and 71.89 drivers. I'd think your rig
>> should score up there too.
>> McG.

Ok, with all the talk about the 77.72 drivers being 'broken' in some
aspects, I haven't run those drivers. You might try uninstalling those
and installing the 71.89 set, as folks here have talked about going back
to this set a number of times. Um, it just occurred to me you might
also check to see if there are any background processes running that
could be eating up your resources? There can easily be unnecesssary
stuff running that can drag performance down like this. Might check
that first.
McG.
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

I'm using Sempron 2400+, 1GB RAM, XFX 8600LE 128MB AGB, driver version 80.40
3dmark03 - 7,700
After openning all pipes and shaders (No OC) - 8,800


"Paul Clarke" <me.TakeThisOut@here.com> wrote in message
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> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB) 500,1000Mhz, Win
> XP SP2, 9.0c
>
> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>
> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

My score with AGP 4x and FW disabled was 7698

"Christian Atteneder" <christian.atteneder RemoveThis @aon.at> wrote in message
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> >
>> the AGP is running at 8x with fast writes and SBA.
>>
>
> Just for fun, try running AGP at 4x and disable fast writes - what are
> your
> scores now?
>
> Chris
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

The only things running in the background is my AV which is set to "Sleep"
mode when I run the test.

The rest of the tasks are normal windows tasks.
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

Benchmark
Width 1024
Height 768
Anti-Aliasing None
Post-Processing No
Texture Filtering Optimal
Max Anisotropy 4
Vertex Shaders Optimal
Force PS 1.1 in GT2 & GT3 No
Repeat Tests Off
Fixed Framerate Off
Comment

3DMark Score 7780 3DMarks
GT1 - Wings of Fury 174.7 FPS
GT2 - Battle of Proxycon 61.9 FPS
GT3 - Troll's Lair 51.0 FPS
GT4 - Mother Nature 46.8 FPS
CPU Score 615 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 69.0 FPS
CPU Test 2 10.9 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 1685.9 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 3910.0 MTexels/s
Vertex Shader 22.3 FPS
Pixel Shader 2.0 127.0 FPS
Ragtroll 34.8 FPS
No sounds 32.8 FPS
24 sounds 30.9 FPS
60 sounds 29.2 FPS
System Info
Version 3.4
CPU Info
Central Processing Unit
Manufacturer AMD
Family AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
Internal Clock 2210 MHz
Internal Clock Maximum 2800 MHz
External Clock 200 MHz
Socket Designation Socket A
Type
Upgrade Socket A
HyperThreadingTechnology N/A
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+

DirectX Info
Version 9.0c
Long Version 4.09.00.0904
DirectDraw Info
Version 5.03.2600.2180
Primary Device NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
Display Devices
Display Device
Description NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Total Local Video Memory 256 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 256 MB
Total AGP Memory 120 MB
Driver File nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version 7.7.7.2
Driver Details
Driver Date 15/06/2005
Driver WHQL Certified TRUE
Max Texture Width 4096 px
Max Texture Height 4096 px
Max User Clipping Planes 6
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass 8
Vertex Shader Version 3
Pixel Shader Version 3
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 0
Max Texture Coordinates 8
PCI
Name NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
Vendor ID 0x10de
Device ID 0x00f1
SubSystem ID 0x21651682
Revision ID 0xa2

Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit A [8]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]

Capabilities AGP Texturing, Hardware Transform and Lighting,
Positional Lights, Subpixel Accurate Rasterizing, Stencil Buffers, Range
Fog, Table Fog, Vertex Fog, W-Fog, Specular Gouraud Shading, Anisotropic
Filtering, Bilinear Filtering, Point Sampling, Trilinear Filtering, Additive
Texture Blending, Dot3 Texture Blending, Multiplicative Texture Blending,
Subtractive Texture Blending, Environmental Bump Mapping, Environmental Bump
Mapping With Luminance, Cube Mapping, Factor Alpha Blending, Vertex Alpha
Blending, Texture Alpha Blending, Texture Clamping, Texture Mirroring,
Texture Wrapping, Guard Band Support, Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustment, Projected
Textures, Volume Textures, Point Primitive Support, Full-Screen
Anti-Aliasing, DXT Compressed Textures, Two Sided Stencil Test, Mipmapped
Volume Textures, Mipmapped Cube Textures, Texture Border Color, Spherical
Mapping, Automatic Mipmap Generation, Hardware Rasterization, Shading,
Transform and Lighting, Scissor Test, Legacy Depth Bias
VGA Memory Clock 1002 MHz
VGA Core Clock 501 MHz
DirectShow Info
Version 6.05.2600.2180

Registered DirectShow Filters
.RAM file Parser
AC3 Parser Filter
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder
ACM Wrapper
ASF ACM Handler
ASF DIB Handler
ASF DJPEG Handler
ASF ICM Handler
ASF JPEG Handler
ASF URL Handler
ASF embedded stuff Handler
ASX file Parser
ASX v.2 file Parser
AVI Decompressor
AVI Draw
AVI Splitter
AVI/WAV File Source
Color Space Converter
DV Muxer
DV Source Filter
DV Splitter
DV Video Decoder
Decrypt/Tag
Default DirectSound Device
Default MidiOut Device
File Source (Async.)
File Source (Netshow URL)
File Source (URL)
File stream renderer
Indeo audio software
Indeo video 4.4 Decompression Filter
Indeo video 5.10 Decompression Filter
Internal Script Command Renderer
Line 21 Decoder
Line 21 Decoder 2
MIDI Parser
MJPEG Decompressor
MPEG Audio Decoder
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder
MPEG Video Decoder
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer
MPEG-2 Splitter
MPEG-I Stream Splitter
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor
Multi-file Parser
NSC file Parser
Nero DVD Decoder
Nero DVD Navigator
Nero Digital Audio Decoder
Nero Digital Parser
Nero ES Video Reader
Nero File Source (Async.)
Nero File Source / Splitter
Nero QuickTime(tm) Audio Decoder
Nero QuickTime(tm) Video Decoder
Nero Splitter
Nero Vcd Navigator
Nero Video Decoder
Overlay Mixer2
QT Decompressor
QuickTime Movie Parser
SAMI (CC) Parser
VBI Surface Allocator
VGA 16 Color Ditherer
Video Port Manager
Video Renderer
WM ASF Reader
WM ASF Writer
WST Decoder
Wave Parser
Windows Media Audio Decoder
Windows Media Multiplexer
Windows Media Update Filter
Windows Media Video Decoder
Windows Media source filter
XML Playlist

DirectSound Info
Version 5.3.2600.2180
Speaker Configuration 5 surround + subwoofer
Speaker Geometry
Primary Device SB Audigy Audio [9000]
Sound Devices
Sound Device
Description SB Audigy Audio [9000]
Manufacturer Creative Technology, Ltd.
Driver File ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version 5.12.1.443
Driver Date 23/02/2004
Driver WHQL Certified TRUE
Max Supported 3D Hardware Sounds 64
PCI
Name Creative Audigy Audio Processor (WDM)
Vendor ID 0x1102
Device ID 0x0004
SubSystem ID 0x00511102
Revision ID 0x03
Capabilities Continuous Rate, Primary Buffer with 16-bit Samples,
Primary Buffers with 8-bit Samples, Monophonic Primary Buffers, Stereo
Primary Buffers, Hardware-mixed Secondary Buffers with 16-bit Samples,
Hardware-mixed Secondary Buffers with 8-bit Samples, Hardware-mixed
Monophonic Secondary Buffers, Hardware-mixed Stereo Secondary Buffers
EAX Support Supported
Memory Info
Total Physical Memory 2048 MB
Free Physical Memory 2048 MB
Total Pagefile Memory 4096 MB
Free Pagefile Memory 4096 MB
Memory Arrays
Memory Array
Max Module Capacity 768 MB
Location System Board
Use System
Supported Error DC
Supported Speeds
Supported Types
Supported Voltages

Memory Slots Installed Enabled Size
1024 MB
1024 MB
32 MB

Motherboard Info
Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Model GA-7VT600 1394
Version 15X
BIOS Vendor Award Software International, Inc.
BIOS Version F4
BIOS Release Date 04/08/2004
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP

Card Slots Order
1
2
3
4
5
0


System Devices Manufacturer
VIA
VIA
VIA

AGP
Revision 3.5
Rate 4x, 8x (8x enabled)
Available Rate 0x0000000c
Selected Rate 0x00000008
Aperture Size 0 B
Sideband Addressing supported (enabled)
Fast Write supported (enabled)
Monitor Info
Monitors
Monitor
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0 px
Max Height 0 px
Power Supply Info
Batteries
Operating System Info
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600
Service Pack Service Pack 2
Locale GB
Desktop Width 1280 px
Desktop Height 1024 px
Desktop BPP 32 b

Applications
AppWindow
tooltips_class32
3DMark03 - Professional Edition
Utils


Processes Name
Idle
System
smss.exe
csrss.exe
winlogon.exe
services.exe
lsass.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
spoolsv.exe
iSafe.exe
MDM.EXE
nvsvc32.exe
wdfmgr.exe
alg.exe
explorer.exe
jusched.exe
CAVTray.exe
CAVRid.exe
CTHELPER.EXE
ctfmon.exe
VetMsg.exe
3DMark03.exe
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Paul Clarke wrote:
> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB) 500,1000Mhz, Win
> XP SP2, 9.0c
>
> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>
> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed
>
>
>
That's a perfectly normal result for an non over clocked single 6600GT.
My XFX 6600GT is over clocked and the last result I got was 8720, you
should check the Futuremark on-line database
My test is here.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3742105
 >> Stay informed about: is this a problem? 

"Paul Clarke" <me RemoveThis @here.com> wrote in message
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> My score with AGP 4x and FW disabled was 7698
>
> "Christian Atteneder" <christian.atteneder RemoveThis @aon.at> wrote in message
> news:1120802516.392689@news.liwest.at...
>>>
>>> the AGP is running at 8x with fast writes and SBA.
>>>
>>
>> Just for fun, try running AGP at 4x and disable fast writes - what
>> are your
>> scores now?
>>
>> Chris

Hm. What is AGP Aperture set to?

there are a few processes I'd kill, especially the CTHELPER, you running
a Creative Labs sound board and driver set? Read this:
http://www.auditmypc.com/process/cthelper.asp

MDM.EXE I'd kill, and turn it off too. Check this:
http://www.iamnotageek.com/a/mdm.exe.php

jusched.exe is SunJava's automatic updater, kill it.

WDFMGR.EXE is installed with Media Player 10. Don't anyone DARE tell me
it's automatically installed with XP SP2. I don't have it and I am
running SP2. It is Windows Driver Foundation Manager, and it gives
better compatibility with hardware drivers.

iSafe.exe is part of ETrust Anti Virus.

The nVidia control applet seems to be missing in your list!

Oh well, these are a few things to play with, See what you think.

HIH.
McG.
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"Dave" <Dave DeleteThis @home.con> wrote in message
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> Paul Clarke wrote:
>> System: XP 3200+, 2.5GB PC3200, KT600, XFX 6600GT (256MB)
>> 500,1000Mhz, Win XP SP2, 9.0c
>>
>> My 3dmark 03 score seems low - only 7749
>>
>> I have the latest Via Chipset drivers installed
>>
>>
>>
> That's a perfectly normal result for an non over clocked single
> 6600GT. My XFX 6600GT is over clocked and the last result I got was
> 8720, you should check the Futuremark on-line database
> My test is here.
> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3742105

is there *really* that much difference between the 6600GT and 6800GT?
Wow.
McG.
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