Are you ready? 2000W PSU w/ Breakout Box

"Impmon" <impmon RemoveThis @digi.mon> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:29:38 -0500, "First of One" <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>
> > http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/40/2kwPS.jpg
>
> Just one problem: average AC outlet are rated for 15A max, which is
> about 1800 watts.

Actually it will be about 1400 W at 120 V and 80% efficiency. Remember that
most PSUs are rated by their maximum DC wattage. The Ultra X3 1600 W, for
example, already includes a 20A NEMA 5-20R AC cable in the box; the cable is
required to use the PSU at full capacity.

> A 2Kw power supply would be drawing max of about
> 17A. Even some commercial places would need to have their wiring
> upgraded and not to 20A but to 25A at least. Got to leave some room
> for monitor (about 1A for CRT), printer, and other periphals.

See above. A 2000 W PSU, if it indeed can deliver its full specification,
will draw about 21A. It will be interesting to see this PSU in a review.
Maybe it requires a 220V outlet normally used for stoves and dryers. Since
CES is in Las Vegas, I assume the PSU will be marketed in North America...

> I thought 1500 watts supply would be overkill unless someone's
> planning on tri or quad SLi video card.

Yes, it is overkill. Anandtech's 3xSLI 8800 Ultra rig drew "only" 730 W,
less than a horsepower. Then again, 3x SLI is overkill for most games, too,
but it hasn't stopped some people from buying it.

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Impmon <impmon RemoveThis @digi.mon> wrote in news:gdreo3l9fsapmp34mapf73mfoka9l1hjcu@
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:29:38 -0500, "First of One" <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>
>>http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/40/2kwPS.jpg
>
> Just one problem: average AC outlet are rated for 15A max, which is
> about 1800 watts. A 2Kw power supply would be drawing max of about
> 17A. Even some commercial places would need to have their wiring
> upgraded and not to 20A but to 25A at least. Got to leave some room
> for monitor (about 1A for CRT), printer, and other periphals.
>
> I thought 1500 watts supply would be overkill unless someone's
> planning on tri or quad SLi video card.
>

Since my house has aluminum wiring, I'd be rather afraid my house would
melt into a pile of goo at 2k watts.
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"First of One" <root.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote in
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>
> Yes, it is overkill. Anandtech's 3xSLI 8800 Ultra rig drew "only" 730
> W, less than a horsepower. Then again, 3x SLI is overkill for most
> games, too, but it hasn't stopped some people from buying it.
>

I tend to define overkill by the lack of funds in my own wallet, not my
opinion of someone else's quest for 3 more fps.
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* Impmon:

>> http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/40/2kwPS.jpg
>
> Just one problem: average AC outlet are rated for 15A max

In the US, yes.

> , which is about 1800 watts. A 2Kw power supply would be drawing max
> of about 17A. Even some commercial places would need to have their
> wiring upgraded and not to 20A but to 25A at least.

That is only the case for countries that use 110V or similarly low mains
power. For countries that use 230V or similar voltages this simply is a
no-brainer.

Benjamin
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:29:38 -0500, "First of One" <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/40/2kwPS.jpg


Idiots...MY PSU is bigger than yours. BARF and GAG.

Next thing the boneheads are gonna put out are two PSU's and the
BONEHEAD consumers are gonna buy them HA Ha Ha, Lead me by the
nose...PLEASE?

Sam
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It's been done:
http://www.antec.com/images/400/P190_back.jpg
http://www.antec.com/pdf/flyers/Neo-link_flyer.pdf

I especially like the line: "gold plated connectors for superior
conductivity"; wonder if it was engineering-driven or marketing-driven.

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
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"Sam" <sam DeleteThis @sam.com> wrote in message
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> Next thing the boneheads are gonna put out are two PSU's and the
> BONEHEAD consumers are gonna buy them HA Ha Ha, Lead me by the
> nose...PLEASE?
>
> Sam
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In article <vsulo39ksmrfg87hgv4f52392c2tn234j1.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Sam <sam.RemoveThis@sam.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:29:38 -0500, "First of One" <root.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1>
>wrote:
>
>>http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/40/2kwPS.jpg
>
>
>Idiots...MY PSU is bigger than yours. BARF and GAG.
>
>Next thing the boneheads are gonna put out are two PSU's and the
>BONEHEAD consumers are gonna buy them HA Ha Ha, Lead me by the
>nose...PLEASE?
>
>Sam
Some server cases DO support dual power supplies
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In article <Q9WdnYLhPJk4lhbanZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d RemoveThis @giganews.com>, "First of One" <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>It's been done:
>http://www.antec.com/images/400/P190_back.jpg
>http://www.antec.com/pdf/flyers/Neo-link_flyer.pdf
>
>I especially like the line: "gold plated connectors for superior
>conductivity"; wonder if it was engineering-driven or marketing-driven.
>
I like how Antec did this. It has the Motherboard and other things ran off the
one, then stuff like video cards and drives off of the other using modular
plugs.
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Alas, functionally it's no better than, say, a single Ultra X3 1000W or
Enermax Galaxy 1000W. Two smaller PSUs take up more space. The 80 mm PSU
fans are potentially louder than the 135 mm fans used on larger PSUs. There
is no redundancy, either, because failure of one PSU still results in an
inoperative system.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"GMAN" <glenzabr RemoveThis @nospam.xmission.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Q9WdnYLhPJk4lhbanZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d RemoveThis @giganews.com>, "First of One"
> <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>It's been done:
>>http://www.antec.com/images/400/P190_back.jpg
>>http://www.antec.com/pdf/flyers/Neo-link_flyer.pdf
>>
>>I especially like the line: "gold plated connectors for superior
>>conductivity"; wonder if it was engineering-driven or marketing-driven.
>>
> I like how Antec did this. It has the Motherboard and other things ran off
> the
> one, then stuff like video cards and drives off of the other using modular
> plugs.
>
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"First of One" <root DeleteThis @127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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[...]

> The 80
> mm PSU fans are potentially louder than the 135 mm fans used on
> larger PSUs.

The Antec fans are very quiet. My Neo HE500 has an 80mm fan and it's barely
audible even under high load.
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In article <sc-dneht4dXLoA3anZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d.RemoveThis@giganews.com>, "First of One" <root.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>Alas, functionally it's no better than, say, a single Ultra X3 1000W or
>Enermax Galaxy 1000W. Two smaller PSUs take up more space. The 80 mm PSU
>fans are potentially louder than the 135 mm fans used on larger PSUs. There
>is no redundancy, either, because failure of one PSU still results in an
>inoperative system.
>
true, but keeping drives and the like on a seperate rail from the MB and ram
and video doesnt hurt stability.
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>"First of One" <root DeleteThis @127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>[...]
>
>> The 80
>> mm PSU fans are potentially louder than the 135 mm fans used on
>> larger PSUs.
>
>The Antec fans are very quiet. My Neo HE500 has an 80mm fan and it's barely
>audible even under high load.
>
>
I have the Neo HE550 and i agree, i cant normally hear it.
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"GMAN" <glenzabr RemoveThis @nospam.xmission.com> wrote in message
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> In article <sc-dneht4dXLoA3anZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d RemoveThis @giganews.com>, "First of One"
> <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>Alas, functionally it's no better than, say, a single Ultra X3 1000W or
>>Enermax Galaxy 1000W. Two smaller PSUs take up more space. The 80 mm PSU
>>fans are potentially louder than the 135 mm fans used on larger PSUs.
>>There
>>is no redundancy, either, because failure of one PSU still results in an
>>inoperative system.
>>
> true, but keeping drives and the like on a seperate rail from the MB and
> ram
> and video doesnt hurt stability.

That's an illusion cooked up by marketing (and Antec was partly to blame in
old the days, for calling "independent rails" a feature). The separation
doesn't enhance stability. The power supply may be separated, but data
signals still flow among the components. A problem in any single component,
be it RAM, video card, drive controller..., still brings down the whole
system.

Stability has more to do with the quality of the PSU itself (transient
overshoot, DC ripple, etc.) than "pollution" among the various devices.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
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