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Dunny Rummy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:30 pm
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I wish to upgrade my 400W ATX PSU but not sure what is best on the
market. I would like a PSU, preferably name brand with all the bells
and whistles (minus that neon crap) and at least 500W (I run a lot of
hardware[ 6WD 7200 RPM HD],ATI 9600XT 128MB, 2 optical drives ).
Please comment on your PSU or what you would recommend. Thanks!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:32 pm
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"Dunny Rummy" said in news:karh10ln0gvqgo80oct9ahi7ijrc3m6557@4ax.com:
 > I wish to upgrade my 400W ATX PSU but not sure what is best on the
 > market. I would like a PSU, preferably name brand with all the bells
 > and whistles (minus that neon crap) and at least 500W (I run a lot of
 > hardware[ 6WD 7200 RPM HD],ATI 9600XT 128MB, 2 optical drives ).
 > Please comment on your PSU or what you would recommend. Thanks!

Visit <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.tomshardware.com" target="_blank">www.tomshardware.com</a> for testing of power supplies. I recently picked
up a Fortron but several others are good and you can read about them. Some
actually provide more power than they rate for themself (i.e., they have
reserve).

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kony

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:42 pm
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:30:15 GMT, Dunny Rummy <fdsss.TakeThisOut@dfdsf.com> wrote:

 >I wish to upgrade my 400W ATX PSU but not sure what is best on the
 >market. I would like a PSU, preferably name brand with all the bells
 >and whistles (minus that neon crap) and at least 500W (I run a lot of
 >hardware[ 6WD 7200 RPM HD],ATI 9600XT 128MB, 2 optical drives ).
 >Please comment on your PSU or what you would recommend. Thanks!

Your motherboard uses 5V for CPU power. This leaves almost all of the
12V rail, that rail taxed most by your numerous hard drives,
available. A decent 400W power supply should power your system fine,
but a really good 300W might too.

What make/model is your power supply?
Do you find it inadequate or has it failed?

A generic 400W PSU may only be worth around 250 actual W, though this
can vary. Someday I'll have to do more testing, because I even have a
couple of Delta 240W PSU, which I think would power that system...
it's all in which PSU you choose.

Here are a few, based on your present system, but should be a little
more than you need on 12V rail, more likely to support future
upgrades:

Antec Smartpower 400W or higher
Antec Truepower 350W or higher
Sparkle 400W or higher
PCPower&Cooling, 350W or higher
Delta 350W or higher
Enermax >450W (really no good reason to get an Enermax, lower quality
per $, more eye-candy than capacity)

Shaking up the ole magic 8-ball, I came up with one for your system,
Antec Truepower 430W Wink<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:28 am
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Dunny Rummy <fdsss.TakeThisOut@dfdsf.com> wrote in message news:<karh10ln0gvqgo80oct9ahi7ijrc3m6557.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...

 > I wish to upgrade my 400W ATX PSU
 > at least 500W (I run a lot of hardware[ 6WD 7200 RPM HD],
 > ATI 9600XT 128MB, 2 optical drives ).

Don't buy a CompUSA brand because some of them are Powmaxes, including
their 600W model, which are famous for not being able to put out their
full rated power. CompUSA says that their other PSUs are from FMI,
but they're just a distributor that gets products from 4-star, another
distributor that told me that they change brands virtually every week,
but the week I phoned them they were shipping Win-tact, a good brand,
used by PC Power & Cooling (Zippy and Fortron/Sparkle are their other
suppliers).

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://takaman.jp" target="_blank">http://takaman.jp</a> has a great power supply calculator that not only
gives the total watts but also the amps for each voltage. With eight
eight disk drives in your system, knowing the number of amps needed
from the +12V can be really important, especially if the motherboard
runs the CPU from the +12V (even some graphics cards use +12V), since
that could bring the requirement to over 18-20A. A 430W or 480W Antec
TruePower can provide that, as can a 530W or 550W Fortron/Sparkle.
NewEgg and Directron carry those brands, but with the 550W
Fortron/Sparkle be careful when ordering because some models have the
usual 20-pin and 4-pin motherboard sockets (ATX style), but others are
and have 24-pin and 8-pin connectors (EPS12V style).<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:34 am
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The best on the market: Antec TruPower.

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"Dunny Rummy" <fdsss.DeleteThis@dfdsf.com> wrote in message
news:karh10ln0gvqgo80oct9ahi7ijrc3m6557@4ax.com...
 > I wish to upgrade my 400W ATX PSU but not sure what is best on the
 > market. I would like a PSU, preferably name brand with all the bells
 > and whistles (minus that neon crap) and at least 500W (I run a lot of
 > hardware[ 6WD 7200 RPM HD],ATI 9600XT 128MB, 2 optical drives ).
 > Please comment on your PSU or what you would recommend. Thanks!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Dunny Rummy

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:23 am
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went down to CompUSA and picked up a full ATX Tower


<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=300439&pfp=BROWSE" target="_blank">http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=300439&pfp=BROWSE</a>

and bought their 600 W PSU


<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=291980&pfp=SEARCH" target="_blank">http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=291980&pfp=SEARCH</a>

I just finished the transferring from one case to another. I really
wonder if that 600 W is true rating.











On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:34:09 GMT, "DaveW" <none DeleteThis @zero.org> wrote:

 >The best on the market: Antec TruPower.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:30 am
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:23:34 GMT, Dunny Rummy <fdsss RemoveThis @dfdsf.com> wrote:

 >went down to CompUSA and picked up a full ATX Tower
 >
 >
 >http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=300439&pfp=BROWSE
 >
 > and bought their 600 W PSU
 >
 >
 >http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=291980&pfp=SEARCH
 >
 >I just finished the transferring from one case to another. I really
 >wonder if that 600 W is true rating.

CompUSA screwed you.

That PSU is likely worth around 280W. If you're stuck with it, you
ought to consider building a low-end box, putting that PSU in it, and
selling it... then take the proceeds and buy a better power supply.

If that's what you wanted, you could've had quite similar but better
power supply here:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115</a>

or if you really need a window, then there's deals on just the case
then add a power supply:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-124" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-124</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.buyxtremegear.com/sx1040win.html" target="_blank">http://www.buyxtremegear.com/sx1040win.html</a>
(but NOT one of the power supplies offered with case @ buybxtremegear,
those PSU are junk).
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-125-262" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-125-262</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-908" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-908</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-914" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-914</a>


That case, if you bought it at $100, isn't such a horrible deal since
at least it's a useable, good case, but the FMI power supply is WAY
overpriced junk.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:21 am
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Ouch! I'm sorry if i insulted anyone. I'm taking the PSU back today
and getting an antec!


On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:30:48 GMT, kony <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote:

 >On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:23:34 GMT, Dunny Rummy <fdsss.RemoveThis@dfdsf.com> wrote:
 >
  >>went down to CompUSA and picked up a full ATX Tower
  >>
  >>
  >>http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=300439&pfp=BROWSE
  >>
  >> and bought their 600 W PSU
  >>
  >>
  >>http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=291980&pfp=SEARCH
  >>
  >>I just finished the transferring from one case to another. I really
  >>wonder if that 600 W is true rating.
 >
 >CompUSA screwed you.
 >
 >That PSU is likely worth around 280W. If you're stuck with it, you
 >ought to consider building a low-end box, putting that PSU in it, and
 >selling it... then take the proceeds and buy a better power supply.
 >
 >If that's what you wanted, you could've had quite similar but better
 >power supply here:
 >
 >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115
 >
 >or if you really need a window, then there's deals on just the case
 >then add a power supply:
 >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-124
 >http://www.buyxtremegear.com/sx1040win.html
 >(but NOT one of the power supplies offered with case @ buybxtremegear,
 >those PSU are junk).
 >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-125-262
 >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-908
 >http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-914
 >
 >
 >That case, if you bought it at $100, isn't such a horrible deal since
 >at least it's a useable, good case, but the FMI power supply is WAY
 >overpriced junk.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 12:59 pm
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:21:31 GMT, Dunny Rummy <fdsss.DeleteThis@dfdsf.com> wrote:

 >Ouch! I'm sorry if i insulted anyone. I'm taking the PSU back today
 >and getting an antec!
 >
 >

If I were you, i'd take both back, that is, if they'll accept the case
back.

Here's an example of CompUSA pricing:
$223 for the Antec 1080 w/Truepower 430W, but available for delivery
only, so add more $$ for S/H.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50236320&pfp=BROWSE" target="_blank">http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50236320...p=BROWS</a>

Newegg Price:
$105 + S/H = $120
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-115</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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