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Since: Jul 30, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:34 pm
Post subject: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS?
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I'm having trouble running my modded Celeron 1000A @ 1333. It keeps locking up
my system within 5 minutes after starting a 3D game or watching a DivX movie.
Prime95 is stable though for hours. The system freezes completely
(mouse+keyboard not responding, image freezes on the monitor, need to push the
reset button). Prior to that there are no symptoms of decay, no error
messages, no BSOD, no crashing programs.
I've tried bumping up voltage to 1.75V, improving airflow, better cooling,
rewiring AK4-AN11 to AK4-AK26 but none of this worked.
There is only one thing I could try and that is removing the IHS. Maybe there
is bad contact between IHS and core. What do you group think of this. Are
instant lockups heat related and would removing the IHS solve my problem? Or
am I just having bad luck with this cpu (Philippines, somewhere in 2001, don't
remember the week) and will it never reach 1333?
Some additional info:
The system ran before with a Tualatin Celeron 1100@1525 so all components are
133MHz bus approved
Specs :
-- MSI BXMaster mobo
-- MS6905Master v2.3 slotket (the best!)
-- AN3 - AJ3 - AK4 insulated AK4-AN11 connected
-- 1.65V
-- 2 x 256 MB Apacer PC133CAS2 // GF4Ti4600 // SB Live! // WinMe ...
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Since: Aug 24, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 7:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Have you tried testing your ram with memtest86?
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:34:10 GMT, "E®¡|< \(|æ§"
<erik.claesGAGARIN.TakeThisOut@pandora.be> put his keys in ignition and wrote:
||>I'm having trouble running my modded Celeron 1000A @ 1333. It keeps locking up
||>my system within 5 minutes after starting a 3D game or watching a DivX movie.
||>Prime95 is stable though for hours. The system freezes completely
||>(mouse+keyboard not responding, image freezes on the monitor, need to push the
||>reset button). Prior to that there are no symptoms of decay, no error
||>messages, no BSOD, no crashing programs.
||>I've tried bumping up voltage to 1.75V, improving airflow, better cooling,
||>rewiring AK4-AN11 to AK4-AK26 but none of this worked.
||>There is only one thing I could try and that is removing the IHS. Maybe there
||>is bad contact between IHS and core. What do you group think of this. Are
||>instant lockups heat related and would removing the IHS solve my problem? Or
||>am I just having bad luck with this cpu (Philippines, somewhere in 2001, don't
||>remember the week) and will it never reach 1333?
||>
||>Some additional info:
||>The system ran before with a Tualatin Celeron 1100@1525 so all components are
||>133MHz bus approved
||>Specs :
||>-- MSI BXMaster mobo
||>-- MS6905Master v2.3 slotket (the best!)
||>-- AN3 - AJ3 - AK4 insulated AK4-AN11 connected
||>-- 1.65V
||>-- 2 x 256 MB Apacer PC133CAS2 // GF4Ti4600 // SB Live! // WinMe ...
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:01 am
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Lee" <leecomp.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> Have you tried testing your ram with memtest86?
Yes, my ram is fine up to FSB = 150MHz CL2. My setup was running a Celeron
1100@1525. I switched only the cpu with a Cel 1000 for testing purposes,
hoping to get at least 1333 MHz.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:03 am
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Lee" <leecomp.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> Have you tried testing your ram with memtest86?
Yes, my ram is fine up to FSB = 150MHz CL2. My setup was running a Celeron
1100@1525. I switched only the cpu with a Cel 1000 for testing purposes,
hoping to get at least 1333 MHz.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Have you tried updating your video card drivers?
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:03:30 GMT, "E®¡|< \(|æ§"
<erik.claesGAGARIN.RemoveThis@pandora.be> put his keys in ignition and wrote:
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||>"Lee" <leecomp.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> schreef in bericht
||>news:ls6givgb4f5tij0h3pgupvdrcvuq3nc23s@4ax.com...
||>> Have you tried testing your ram with memtest86?
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||>Yes, my ram is fine up to FSB = 150MHz CL2. My setup was running a Celeron
||>1100@1525. I switched only the cpu with a Cel 1000 for testing purposes,
||>hoping to get at least 1333 MHz.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 1:06 am
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"Lee" <leecomp.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> Have you tried updating your video card drivers?
Yep, also tried with a matrox G400 in stead of the GF4Ti4600. Same result.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:55 am
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:34:10 GMT, "E®Ë‡|< \(|ć§"
<erik.claesGAGARIN.DeleteThis@pandora.be> wrote:
>I'm having trouble running my modded Celeron 1000A @ 1333.
you´ve got mail ...
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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No Not all celerons are equal and you will ruin your warranty.
Lane
"E®¡|< (|æ§" <erik.claesGAGARIN.TakeThisOut@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:SzRVa.16118$5K5.1636794406@hestia.telenet-ops.be...
> I'm having trouble running my modded Celeron 1000A @ 1333. It keeps
locking up
> my system within 5 minutes after starting a 3D game or watching a DivX
movie.
> Prime95 is stable though for hours. The system freezes completely
> (mouse+keyboard not responding, image freezes on the monitor, need to push
the
> reset button). Prior to that there are no symptoms of decay, no error
> messages, no BSOD, no crashing programs.
> I've tried bumping up voltage to 1.75V, improving airflow, better cooling,
> rewiring AK4-AN11 to AK4-AK26 but none of this worked.
> There is only one thing I could try and that is removing the IHS. Maybe
there
> is bad contact between IHS and core. What do you group think of this. Are
> instant lockups heat related and would removing the IHS solve my problem?
Or
> am I just having bad luck with this cpu (Philippines, somewhere in 2001,
don't
> remember the week) and will it never reach 1333?
>
> Some additional info:
> The system ran before with a Tualatin Celeron 1100@1525 so all components
are
> 133MHz bus approved
> Specs :
> -- MSI BXMaster mobo
> -- MS6905Master v2.3 slotket (the best!)
> -- AN3 - AJ3 - AK4 insulated AK4-AN11 connected
> -- 1.65V
> -- 2 x 256 MB Apacer PC133CAS2 // GF4Ti4600 // SB Live! // WinMe ...
>
>
> --
> ANTISPAM : remove the 1st man in space for email
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 5:13 am
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If Prime95 is stable then something else is the problem not the CPU........
"E®¡|< (|æ§" <erik.claesGAGARIN.DeleteThis@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:SzRVa.16118$5K5.1636794406@hestia.telenet-ops.be...
> I'm having trouble running my modded Celeron 1000A @ 1333. It keeps
locking up
> my system within 5 minutes after starting a 3D game or watching a DivX
movie.
> Prime95 is stable though for hours. The system freezes completely
> (mouse+keyboard not responding, image freezes on the monitor, need to push
the
> reset button). Prior to that there are no symptoms of decay, no error
> messages, no BSOD, no crashing programs.
> I've tried bumping up voltage to 1.75V, improving airflow, better cooling,
> rewiring AK4-AN11 to AK4-AK26 but none of this worked.
> There is only one thing I could try and that is removing the IHS. Maybe
there
> is bad contact between IHS and core. What do you group think of this. Are
> instant lockups heat related and would removing the IHS solve my problem?
Or
> am I just having bad luck with this cpu (Philippines, somewhere in 2001,
don't
> remember the week) and will it never reach 1333?
>
> Some additional info:
> The system ran before with a Tualatin Celeron 1100@1525 so all components
are
> 133MHz bus approved
> Specs :
> -- MSI BXMaster mobo
> -- MS6905Master v2.3 slotket (the best!)
> -- AN3 - AJ3 - AK4 insulated AK4-AN11 connected
> -- 1.65V
> -- 2 x 256 MB Apacer PC133CAS2 // GF4Ti4600 // SB Live! // WinMe ...
>
>
> --
> ANTISPAM : remove the 1st man in space for email
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Should I remove my Tualatin's IHS? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Nitza666" <nitza666.TakeThisOut@pathfinder.gr> wrote in message
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> If Prime95 is stable then something else is the problem not the
> CPU........
You can't say that for sure. Prime95 doesn't tax *every* single aspect of
the CPU -- it uses only a subset. Different code might stress other parts
of the CPU that fails earlier (or later) than the parts used by Prime95.
Regards,
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:58 pm
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"Nitza666" <nitza666 DeleteThis @pathfinder.gr> wrote in message
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> If Prime95 is stable then something else is the problem not the
CPU........
Exactly. And if it only happens in 3d games or DivX movies I'd suspect the
graphics sub-system/drivers. AGP bus out of spec?
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> "E®¡|< (|æ§" <erik.claesGAGARIN DeleteThis @pandora.be> wrote in message
> news:SzRVa.16118$5K5.1636794406@hestia.telenet-ops.be...
> > I'm having trouble running my modded Celeron 1000A @ 1333. It keeps
> locking up
> > my system within 5 minutes after starting a 3D game or watching a DivX
> movie.
> > Prime95 is stable though for hours. The system freezes completely
> > (mouse+keyboard not responding, image freezes on the monitor, need to
push
> the
> > reset button). Prior to that there are no symptoms of decay, no error
> > messages, no BSOD, no crashing programs.
> > I've tried bumping up voltage to 1.75V, improving airflow, better
cooling,
> > rewiring AK4-AN11 to AK4-AK26 but none of this worked.
> > There is only one thing I could try and that is removing the IHS. Maybe
> there
> > is bad contact between IHS and core. What do you group think of this.
Are
> > instant lockups heat related and would removing the IHS solve my
problem?
> Or
> > am I just having bad luck with this cpu (Philippines, somewhere in 2001,
> don't
> > remember the week) and will it never reach 1333?
> >
> > Some additional info:
> > The system ran before with a Tualatin Celeron 1100@1525 so all
components
> are
> > 133MHz bus approved
> > Specs :
> > -- MSI BXMaster mobo
> > -- MS6905Master v2.3 slotket (the best!)
> > -- AN3 - AJ3 - AK4 insulated AK4-AN11 connected
> > -- 1.65V
> > -- 2 x 256 MB Apacer PC133CAS2 // GF4Ti4600 // SB Live! // WinMe ...
> >
> >
> > --
> > ANTISPAM : remove the 1st man in space for email
> >
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 12:29 am
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No way if Prime95 runs stable on a PC for at least 12 hours then the CPU is
rock solid,he should check his memory since Prime95 not always crashes from
failing memory...............
"Arthur Hagen" <art.RemoveThis@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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> "Nitza666" <nitza666.RemoveThis@pathfinder.gr> wrote in message
> news:1059790544.447376@athprx02...
> > If Prime95 is stable then something else is the problem not the
> > CPU........
>
> You can't say that for sure. Prime95 doesn't tax *every* single aspect of
> the CPU -- it uses only a subset. Different code might stress other parts
> of the CPU that fails earlier (or later) than the parts used by Prime95.
>
> Regards,
> --
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 12:29 am
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"Nitza666" <nitza666.RemoveThis@pathfinder.gr> wrote in message
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> No way if Prime95 runs stable on a PC for at least 12 hours then the CPU
is
> rock solid,he should check his memory since Prime95 not always crashes
from
> failing memory...............
Prime95 also doesn't fully utilize the larger secondary cache in modern
CPU's. It's quite possible that Prime95 runs stable, yet the CPU might
crash on a more SC intensive program.
It also doesn't tax the MMX/SSE parts of the chip at all -- these may be
failing when overclocked even though Prime95 runs stable.
Sure, it may be the memory, but the point is that it doesn't HAVE to be --
Prime95 running stable isn't a *guarantee* that the CPU runs stable, only
that it runs stable for the things that Prime95 does.
At the very least, I'd complement it with a Sandra Pro burn-in test, which
although it generates less total load, it loads nearly every aspect of the
CPUs and their cache.
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