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JimL4

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:02 pm
Post subject: How to speed up LAN connections
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I need help with thruput on my 4 computer LAN.

I just bought a 10/100mhz router and the K7S5A Pro with 2200 athlon.
I expected my LAN transfers would really fly with the router replacing
a 10mhz hub. Not so.

It takes a good 2 minutes to move 500 files totaling 250 mb from one
computer to another. What should I look for that is causing this
bottleneck. I'm running Win2k and Win98SE.

Jiml

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Kyle Brant

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:35 pm
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To test your LAN speed, transfer a large zip file (say 40 meg or
larger) from one machine to another and use a utility like netpersec
to monitor the speed of the xfer, you'll have a good feel for your max
speed then. Also, xfer the file both directions between machines to
thoroughly test things out. Transferring a large quantity of files
may simply be an indicator of windows' file system speeds. I get
pretty good overall LAN speed out of my ver 1 k7s5a (maybe 60mb/sec
actual on a large file xfer) and I have a crummy no name brand 10/100
switch. Also consider that the HD speeds of each machine can impact
network xfer speeds, if you got a slower HD, it just might slow things
down.

Another thing to consider: how are you moving these files? Using
Explorer? or xcopy or what?
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"JimL" <socksjim01 RemoveThis @hal-pcsocks.com> wrote in message
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| I need help with thruput on my 4 computer LAN.
|
| I just bought a 10/100mhz router and the K7S5A Pro with 2200
athlon.
| I expected my LAN transfers would really fly with the router
replacing
| a 10mhz hub. Not so.
|
| It takes a good 2 minutes to move 500 files totaling 250 mb from
one
| computer to another. What should I look for that is causing this
| bottleneck. I'm running Win2k and Win98SE.
|
| Jiml
|
|
|
|
|

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Tony Sutton

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:40 pm
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"JimL" <socksjim01 DeleteThis @hal-pcsocks.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > I just bought a 10/100mhz router and the K7S5A Pro with 2200 athlon.
 > I expected my LAN transfers would really fly with the router replacing
 > a 10mhz hub. Not so.
 >

10Mhz? Heh.

Make sure your operating system are set to use Full Duplex, 100Mbps with the
100Mbps set (if any) on your router.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:27 am
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:02:03 -0500, JimL <socksjim01.RemoveThis@hal-pcsocks.com>
wrote:

 > I need help with thruput on my 4 computer LAN.
 >
 > I just bought a 10/100mhz router and the K7S5A Pro with 2200 athlon.
 >I expected my LAN transfers would really fly with the router replacing
 >a 10mhz hub. Not so.
 >
 > It takes a good 2 minutes to move 500 files totaling 250 mb from one
 >computer to another.

Test it with anti-virus utilities disabled. This can make a HUGE
difference.

 > What should I look for that is causing this
 >bottleneck. I'm running Win2k and Win98SE.
 >
 >Jiml
 >
 >
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:34 pm
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Thanks guys.

I forced the boards to 100mbs from autosense and
it was still very slow.

I decided to check the wiring on my Cat5 cable and
sure enough, I had wired them straight through. I have some bought
patch cables 4 feet long that were wired straight through, so I wired
my cat5 cable straight through - which was a stupid mistake.
So I cut off the connectors and rewired them per spec and it really
helped my transfer speed.

My old hub would show a yellow light sometimes when transferring
files, indicating that a retransmission was necessary. I never
connected the dots with bad wiring, but now I see why it was
complaining.

JimL
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Bitsbucket2

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:30 am
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looking at the connector from the side without the clip......O/S, O, G/S, B,
B/S, G, B/S, B is the standard cat 5 wiring convention, at least as far as I
know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....
bitsbucket
OH, and that is how store bought cables are wired, that is a "patch cable"
do you mean you needed a "crossover" cable? now that is a different
story.....

"JimL" <socksjim01.RemoveThis@hal-pcsocks.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks guys.
 >
 > I forced the boards to 100mbs from autosense and
 > it was still very slow.
 >
 > I decided to check the wiring on my Cat5 cable and
 > sure enough, I had wired them straight through. I have some bought
 > patch cables 4 feet long that were wired straight through, so I wired
 > my cat5 cable straight through - which was a stupid mistake.
 > So I cut off the connectors and rewired them per spec and it really
 > helped my transfer speed.
 >
 > My old hub would show a yellow light sometimes when transferring
 > files, indicating that a retransmission was necessary. I never
 > connected the dots with bad wiring, but now I see why it was
 > complaining.
 >
 > JimL
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:36 am
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:30:29 GMT, "Bitsbucket" <user90 RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

 >looking at the connector from the side without the clip......O/S, O, G/S, B,
 >B/S, G, B/S, B is the standard cat 5 wiring convention, at least as far as I
 >know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....
 >bitsbucket
 >OH, and that is how store bought cables are wired, that is a "patch cable"
 >do you mean you needed a "crossover" cable? now that is a different
 >story.....

The patch cables I ordered were all straight through. I know that is
wrong but they were cheap and they work fine. Evidently, 6 feet of
flat cable will work but not so with 70 foot runs.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:59 pm
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:36:18 -0500, JimL <socksjim01 RemoveThis @hal-pcsocks.com>
wrote:

 >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:30:29 GMT, "Bitsbucket" <user90 RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>looking at the connector from the side without the clip......O/S, O, G/S, B,
  >>B/S, G, B/S, B is the standard cat 5 wiring convention, at least as far as I
  >>know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....
  >>bitsbucket
  >>OH, and that is how store bought cables are wired, that is a "patch cable"
  >>do you mean you needed a "crossover" cable? now that is a different
  >>story.....
 >
 > The patch cables I ordered were all straight through. I know that is
 >wrong but they were cheap and they work fine. Evidently, 6 feet of
 >flat cable will work but not so with 70 foot runs.
 >
 > JimL
 >
Even at 6' you will get errors, and large transfers will be slower than
normal. Might not show up at internet speeds that often, but will start to
show up at 10mbs and will definately be there at 100mbs. The cross talk in
an improperly made cable will cause packet errors and retries, some of them
will be pattern or data sensitive and therefore intermittent. When you can
get properly made cables online for about $2.00, it is a false economy to
use the wrong cables.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:10 pm
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:59:57 GMT, JT <datacare@www> wrote:

 >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:36:18 -0500, JimL <socksjim01.TakeThisOut@hal-pcsocks.com>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:30:29 GMT, "Bitsbucket" <user90.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
  >>wrote:
  >>
   >>>looking at the connector from the side without the clip......O/S, O, G/S, B,
   >>>B/S, G, B/S, B is the standard cat 5 wiring convention, at least as far as I
   >>>know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....
   >>>bitsbucket
   >>>OH, and that is how store bought cables are wired, that is a "patch cable"
   >>>do you mean you needed a "crossover" cable? now that is a different
   >>>story.....
  >>
  >> The patch cables I ordered were all straight through. I know that is
  >>wrong but they were cheap and they work fine. Evidently, 6 feet of
  >>flat cable will work but not so with 70 foot runs.
  >>
  >> JimL
  >>
 >Even at 6' you will get errors, and large transfers will be slower than
 >normal. Might not show up at internet speeds that often, but will start to
 >show up at 10mbs and will definately be there at 100mbs. The cross talk in
 >an improperly made cable will cause packet errors and retries, some of them
 >will be pattern or data sensitive and therefore intermittent. When you can
 >get properly made cables online for about $2.00, it is a false economy to
 >use the wrong cables.
 >
 >JT

I don't think so.

At 6 feet, the wires not being twisted just doesn't make a
difference. Even at 100 mbs.

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