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Jeff

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:59 pm
Post subject: possible temp problems on my IS7
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Hey

I've got an computer build around a abit IS7 motherboard.

A few months ago I replaced the chipset fan (the fan which the motherboard
was delivered with) with a passive chipset cooler (Zalman Chipset cooler
NBF47 ).

A week ago I opened the cabinet and to my surprise one of mounting brackets
for the passive chipset cooler was broken and the chipset cooler was hanging
loos in the cabinet

I haven't got any problems with my computer, it is stable etc...

There are currently 2 fans in the computer (1 in PSU and 1 on CPU - Intel
2.6GHz)

Currently this computer have no chipset cooling

From bios (pc health status):
Active Temperature 70 degree
System Temperature 36 degree

Does this look right? Or could it be an error which reports wrong
temperatures?

Does this computer need extra cooling?

any suggestions?

Jeff

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:59 pm
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Jeff wrote:
> Hey
>
> I've got an computer build around a abit IS7 motherboard.
>
> A few months ago I replaced the chipset fan (the fan which the motherboard
> was delivered with) with a passive chipset cooler (Zalman Chipset cooler
> NBF47 ).
>
> A week ago I opened the cabinet and to my surprise one of mounting brackets
> for the passive chipset cooler was broken and the chipset cooler was hanging
> loos in the cabinet
>
> I haven't got any problems with my computer, it is stable etc...
>
> There are currently 2 fans in the computer (1 in PSU and 1 on CPU - Intel
> 2.6GHz)
>
> Currently this computer have no chipset cooling
>
> From bios (pc health status):
> Active Temperature 70 degree
> System Temperature 36 degree
>
> Does this look right? Or could it be an error which reports wrong
> temperatures?
>
> Does this computer need extra cooling?
>
> any suggestions?
>
> Jeff

Those temps are cooking compared to my Athlon and NF7 board.
The CPU fan almost doesn't count, it just redistributes heat that's
already trapped in the case. And PSU fans (at least mine) don't move a
whole lot of air. You need case fans. And pin the Zalman back on.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:06 pm
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:04:04 +0200 'Jeff'
wrote this on alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit:
>I've got an computer build around a abit IS7 motherboard.

I've got an IS7-E2 (which doesn't have the chipset fan).

>A few months ago I replaced the chipset fan (the fan which the motherboard
>was delivered with) with a passive chipset cooler (Zalman Chipset cooler
>NBF47 ).

>A week ago I opened the cabinet and to my surprise one of mounting brackets
>for the passive chipset cooler was broken and the chipset cooler was hanging
>loos in the cabinet

Yikes!

>I haven't got any problems with my computer, it is stable etc...

Phew!

>There are currently 2 fans in the computer (1 in PSU and 1 on CPU - Intel
>2.6GHz)

Sounds about right.

>Currently this computer have no chipset cooling

Ooh.

>From bios (pc health status):
>Active Temperature 70 degree
>System Temperature 36 degree

>Does this look right? Or could it be an error which reports wrong
>temperatures?

Who knows.

>Does this computer need extra cooling?
>
>any suggestions?

Yes, get yourself a new chipset fan and install it asap.
Meanwhile those temps don't look bad for this mobo.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:57 pm
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FWIW, my IS7 (northwood) temps, as reported by ABIT-EQ:

sys: 32 C cpu: 35.5 C pwm: 35.0 C

that's at "idle", under full load they never go above 48

---

so your reported "active temp 70" is pretty high.

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here's "standard" numbers for a P4:

Pentium 4 Northwood Core stock cooling
28c-55c average and 57c worry limit

Pentium 4 Prescott Core stock cooling
45c-70c average and 75c worry limit
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:57 pm
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I reported
Active Temperature 70 degree
System Temperature 36 degree

What is the difference between Active Temperatur and System temperature?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:57 pm
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:01:06 +0200 'Jeff'
wrote this on alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit:

>I reported
>Active Temperature 70 degree
>System Temperature 36 degree
>
>What is the difference between Active Temperatur and System temperature?

Active is probably CPU under load.
System is probably PWM.

You might want to install (freeware) SpeedFan for fan/temp control
after you get the HSF sorted out.

btw - were the temps you quoted earlier in celsius?
If so, then my earlier comment is wrong ... 70C for CPU is high.
Mine used to reach that before I installed a nice new HSF - now
it's never above 52C under load and that's a P4 Prescott. At idle
it's about 39-40C with fan running at 20% of max.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:39 pm
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:04:04 +0200, "Jeff"
<it_consultant1 RemoveThis @hotmail.com.NOSPAM> wrote:

>Hey
>
>I've got an computer build around a abit IS7 motherboard.
>
>A few months ago I replaced the chipset fan (the fan which the motherboard
>was delivered with) with a passive chipset cooler (Zalman Chipset cooler
>NBF47 ).
>
>A week ago I opened the cabinet and to my surprise one of mounting brackets
>for the passive chipset cooler was broken and the chipset cooler was hanging
>loos in the cabinet

The exact same thing happened to my IS7 a couple of months ago, one of
the retention loops popped out of the motherboard leaving the (stock)
heatsink resting on the back of the video card. I couldn't be bothered
dismantling the whole machine to solder it back in so I bent the
bracket hooks in the opposite direction for anti-clockwise fitting.

Going by this photo:
<http://www.zalman.co.kr/images/product_img/cooler/zm_nbf47_eng.jpg>
it doesn't look like that can be done with the Zalman.

If you still have the original heatsink though, you can put it on
without the fan running, the Northbridge runs warm but not hot enough
to need active cooling (unless maybe you're running an aggressive
memory timing regime)

>I haven't got any problems with my computer, it is stable etc...
>
>There are currently 2 fans in the computer (1 in PSU and 1 on CPU - Intel
>2.6GHz)
>
>Currently this computer have no chipset cooling
>
>From bios (pc health status):
>Active Temperature 70 degree
>System Temperature 36 degree
>
>Does this look right? Or could it be an error which reports wrong
>temperatures?

Active Temperature is a user setting, you set it to the temperature at
which the CPU fan speeds up, it is not a measure of how hot your CPU
is. In any case, Northbridge cooling has no direct effect on CPU
temperature.

CPU FanEQ Speed Control must be enabled for this function to work.

>Does this computer need extra cooling?
>
>any suggestions?

Bend the old heatsink bracket to fit, stick it on, stop worrying about
it.

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