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dbd

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Since: Nov 27, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:16 pm
Post subject: Two types of T-bird Bs?
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Hey,
I'm getting a T-Bird B CPU for my Abit KT7a (1.2), and I'm planning on
getting a 2100, 2200 or 2400 (because I heard that for overclocking
they are all the same). When searcing for a way to tell weather or not
2100 and 2200 chips were Bs I found this website (
http://www.overclockers.com/tips00173/ ) that claims that there are
two types of T-bird Bs, quote:

"There are high-end and low-end TBredBs. They aren't all the same. The
high-end ones on average perform several hundred MHz better than the
low-end ones. Update 3/28/03: The gap between the two has narrowed
somewhat with the latest (week 8 and thereafter) "J" chips.
You can identify which type of TBredB it is by looking at code that
begins the second line of coding on the processor. If you see a code
like "AIUHB" that begins with the letter "A," that's a high-end
TBredB.
If you see a code like "JIUCB" that begins with the letter "J," that's
a low-end TBredB."

Is this true? And if it is then is the differnece significant when
overclocking?

Thanks

DBD

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Wes Newell1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:09 am
Post subject: Re: Two types of T-bird Bs? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:16:18 -0800, dbd wrote:

 > Hey,
 > I'm getting a T-Bird B CPU for my Abit KT7a (1.2), and I'm planning on
 > getting a 2100, 2200 or 2400 (because I heard that for overclocking
 > they are all the same). When searcing for a way to tell weather or not
 > 2100 and 2200 chips were Bs I found this website (
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.overclockers.com/tips00173/" target="_blank">http://www.overclockers.com/tips00173/</a> ) that claims that there are
 > two types of T-bird Bs, quote:
 >
OK, These are Tbreds, as in thoroughbred core, not T-birds as in
thunderbird cores, but the tips are pretty much correct. The only problem
you may encounter now is that if you get a newer chip it may be completely
multiplier locked internally. To avoid this make sure the date code is
prior to 0338.

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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html" target="_blank">http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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rstlne

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:04 am
Post subject: Re: Two types of T-bird Bs? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Wes Newell" <w.newell.DeleteThis@SOSverizon.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.11.28.04.10.44.639108@SOSverizon.net...
 > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:16:18 -0800, dbd wrote:
 >
  > > Hey,> OK, These are Tbreds, as in thoroughbred core, not T-birds as in
 > thunderbird cores, but the tips are pretty much correct. The only problem
 > you may encounter now is that if you get a newer chip it may be completely
 > multiplier locked internally. To avoid this make sure the date code is
 > prior to 0338.

Hey Wes, Is that for the Durons too, I wouldnt mind modding one of those
1600 durons for this spare system I got but I dont wanna buy it unless I
"could" mod it<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:14 am
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:04:06 +0000, wrote:

 >
 > "Wes Newell" <w.newell DeleteThis @SOSverizon.net> wrote in message
 > news:pan.2003.11.28.04.10.44.639108@SOSverizon.net...
  >> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:16:18 -0800, dbd wrote:
  >>
   >> > Hey,> OK, These are Tbreds, as in thoroughbred core, not T-birds as in
  >> thunderbird cores, but the tips are pretty much correct. The only problem
  >> you may encounter now is that if you get a newer chip it may be completely
  >> multiplier locked internally. To avoid this make sure the date code is
  >> prior to 0338.
 >
 > Hey Wes, Is that for the Durons too, I wouldnt mind modding one of those
 > 1600 durons for this spare system I got but I dont wanna buy it unless I
 > "could" mod it.

I don't know for sure, but there's a sale at Frye's for a Duron 1600 and
K7VTA3 MB for $49. Was thinking about getting one to play with.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:33 pm
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I have a so called low end 2100+ overclocked to 2100 MHz which, I
guess, is equal to about a 2500+. Might even go higher but I have
some cheap old memory. It is rock solid and runs cool. KT7-Raid



"dbd" <dbd RemoveThis @myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:5216c33a.0311271716.2c058a92@posting.google.com...
 > Hey,
 > I'm getting a T-Bird B CPU for my Abit KT7a (1.2), and I'm planning
on
 > getting a 2100, 2200 or 2400 (because I heard that for overclocking
 > they are all the same). When searcing for a way to tell weather or
not
 > 2100 and 2200 chips were Bs I found this website (
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.overclockers.com/tips00173/" target="_blank">http://www.overclockers.com/tips00173/</a> ) that claims that there are
 > two types of T-bird Bs, quote:
 >
 > "There are high-end and low-end TBredBs. They aren't all the same.
The
 > high-end ones on average perform several hundred MHz better than the
 > low-end ones. Update 3/28/03: The gap between the two has narrowed
 > somewhat with the latest (week 8 and thereafter) "J" chips.
 > You can identify which type of TBredB it is by looking at code that
 > begins the second line of coding on the processor. If you see a code
 > like "AIUHB" that begins with the letter "A," that's a high-end
 > TBredB.
 > If you see a code like "JIUCB" that begins with the letter "J,"
that's
 > a low-end TBredB."
 >
 > Is this true? And if it is then is the differnece significant when
 > overclocking?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > DBD<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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