does any version of MMC work???

According to this Driverheaven forum thread, apparently you need to install
the AVIVO suite for the TV tuner to work (don't ask me why).
http://www.driverheaven.net/all-wonder-tv-video-capture/107138-mmc-9-1...eleased

The AVIVO suite can be downloaded here:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonxavivo-xp

Note you need Catalyst 8.1 to use the above download. So install Catalyst
8.1 and MMC 9.16.

FYI. T200 Unified AVStream Driver *is* the WDM driver. T200 = Theater 200,
which is the VIVO chip mounted on the AIW 2006 PCIe. The "unified" moniker
denotes a merger of previous components like WDM Rage Theater Audio, WDM
Rage Theater Video, WDM TV Audio Crossbar, etc. You will see a single T200
entry in Device Manager in place of 5-6 WDM entries. Click on the release
notes for the WDM driver for more details:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/aiwradeonxip-xp

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"hexHead®" <hexHead DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> running an AIW 2006 PCI-E on Windows XP SP2
>
> Grrrr
> Is there any combination of Catalyst and MMC drivers that actually
> work?
>
> I've uninstalled and reinstalled so many times I could puke...
> (ran the AtiCimUn.exe uninstaller, ran Driver Cleaner Pro, and even
> did the ol' hunt-n-peck through the registry to make sure all traces
> of ATI-whatever were gone. rebooted ad nauseum)
>
> Specifically, everytime I try and use the TV tuner, I get the same
> "Unable to initialize" error - which is no help at all...
>
> I've tried god-knows-how-many combinations going back to Catalyst 5.4
> & MMC 9.03 - no luck
>
> For whatever reason, I cant seem to get rid of the ATI T200 Unified
> AVStream Driver and revert back to the old WDM's - how is that
> accomplished?? Is that the problem?
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:29:19 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody.RemoveThis@nospam.null>
wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> For whatever reason, I cant seem to get rid of the ATI T200 Unified
>> AVStream Driver and revert back to the old WDM's - how is that
>> accomplished?? Is that the problem?
>
>Possibly. The T200 driver rendered my AIW useless. However, mine is 9600XT
>AGP so I don't know how much of my experience is applicable to your
>situation.
>
>I use Catalyst 6.2 with MMC 9.06 (I also had good luck with 9.08 but decided
>to go with this one after my latest reinstall.) I have the WDMs apearing in
>my Device Manager, with (thankfully) no sign of the T200. The T200 starts
>showing up with Cat 6.3.
>
>I don't know why you're seeing it with drivers as old as 5.4.
>
>Before uninstalling all the ATI software you should boot in safe mode and
>remove all ATI-related devices fron Device Manager. Also make sure you have
>no "ghost" devices (for which the drivers are installed but do not show up
>because Windows think's they're not connected). See the MS article on how to
>do this :
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539
>
>Good luck.
>

actually, the 6.2 catalyst drivers have the AT200 drivers as well...
oh well, the search continues...
thanks anyway
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:08:56 -0500, "T Shadow"
<blackhole.DeleteThis@nowhere.void.com> wrote:

>The secret handshake, at least with an AGP AIW, is to go to
>http://ati.com/install do everything exactly as it says. I've used every
>version from 9.01 to 9.16. Never had an install issue this couldn't fix.
>Unfortunately the first install doesn't always work. The method of install
>is way more complicated than it should be.Where most fail is not getting all
>steps done and in the proper order. I had to make a check list to make sure
>everything got done correctly. IIRC 13 steps for AIW&HDTV Wonder for 9.16.
>
>If you had an AGP card like my AIW9600XT would suggest 9.06 and Cat6.1.
>Thought 6.3 was the first version for the Unified driver too but memory
>isn't that great. May also be that your not getting things clean.
>
>Since you have a newer card I wouldn't use a release older than what came
>with the card. Do full installs until it's working then if you want to
>remove, do a Modify install. Very easy. Make sure you have the latest M/B
>chipset drivers and run dxdiag. Work on MMC. I usually try a couple of
>Repair installs before starting completely over. AmCap working should mean
>the drivers are installed correctly but wouldn't bet on it.
>
>Good Luck.


done all that - more times than I can remember - for nearly a year
now. it worked for a while a year ago, but not since.
one thing I DO know, any instructions found on ATI's site are
useless...
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"hexHead®" <hexHead.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:08:56 -0500, "T Shadow"
> <blackhole.RemoveThis@nowhere.void.com> wrote:
>
>
> done all that - more times than I can remember - for nearly a year
> now. it worked for a while a year ago, but not since.
> one thing I DO know, any instructions found on ATI's site are
> useless...

Works for me. Maybe your card is defective or ? .
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hexHead® wrote:
> running an AIW 2006 PCI-E on Windows XP SP2
>
> Grrrr
> Is there any combination of Catalyst and MMC drivers that actually
> work?
>
> I've uninstalled and reinstalled so many times I could puke...
> (ran the AtiCimUn.exe uninstaller, ran Driver Cleaner Pro, and even
> did the ol' hunt-n-peck through the registry to make sure all traces
> of ATI-whatever were gone. rebooted ad nauseum)
>
> Specifically, everytime I try and use the TV tuner, I get the same
> "Unable to initialize" error - which is no help at all...
>
> I've tried god-knows-how-many combinations going back to Catalyst 5.4
> & MMC 9.03 - no luck
>
> For whatever reason, I cant seem to get rid of the ATI T200 Unified
> AVStream Driver and revert back to the old WDM's - how is that
> accomplished?? Is that the problem?

I feel your pain, brother (pours hexHead a shot of tequila)...

My Radeon 9800 AIW eventually got to the point where the tuner would
work with any software BUT MMC, no matter what combination of
drivers/MMC versions I tried. I went through all the same
removal/cleaning steps you did, without success. Ultimately I decided
to just buck up for a copy of BeyondTV, and then decided to get one of
their bundles that included the Hauppauge HVR-1600 tuner card, which has
both standard analog *and* ATSC hi-def tuners... now my AiW performs
simple display-adapter duty on some older version of the Radeon
drivers... and I occasionally use it to feed Windows Media Encoder to
stream hockey games that my out-of-town buddy can't get on his local
satellite feed

In the middle of all this, I discovered through other programs'
complaints that DirectDraw isn't working on my system, and I suspect
this may have been related to MMC's issues starting up. I have yet to
get it working, through another extensive series of
uninstall/clean/manually-clean/reinstall bullshit and fear it may come
down to simple formatting my drive and installing everything clean...
possibly with the addition of a new Nvidia card, as I've quite had it
with anything ATI.
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hexHead® wrote:

> yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
> start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
> but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
> being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
> own products?

I emailed them once and asked them that exact question... the response
assured me that ALL their workstations there use ATI cards, always with
the latest drivers, and of course, everything always works just fine.

I'd been putting ATI cards in my family's computers for years, mostly
because I really liked their OpenGL support... when I recently rebuilt
my wife's computer, I put an nVidia card in it. I'm through with ATI
forever.
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:27:24 GMT, Matt Ion <soundy106 RemoveThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>hexHead® wrote:
>
>> yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
>> start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
>> but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
>> being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
>> own products?
>
>I emailed them once and asked them that exact question... the response
>assured me that ALL their workstations there use ATI cards, always with
>the latest drivers, and of course, everything always works just fine.


heh, I know what you mean. it's a little like listening to those sales
figures for Vista coming from Microsoft... what do you expect them to
say?


>
>I'd been putting ATI cards in my family's computers for years, mostly
>because I really liked their OpenGL support... when I recently rebuilt
>my wife's computer, I put an nVidia card in it. I'm through with ATI
>forever.


count me in as well.
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:27:24 GMT, Matt Ion <soundy106.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
wrote:

>hexHead® wrote:
>
>> yea well, I think it's time to just to just purge the ATI demon and
>> start over, chalk it up to a lesson learned. but still you can't help
>> but wonder, with hardware and its accompanying drivers and software
>> being soooo consistently bad - does anyone from ATI actually use their
>> own products?
>
>I emailed them once and asked them that exact question... the response
>assured me that ALL their workstations there use ATI cards, always with
>the latest drivers, and of course, everything always works just fine.
>
>I'd been putting ATI cards in my family's computers for years, mostly
>because I really liked their OpenGL support... when I recently rebuilt
>my wife's computer, I put an nVidia card in it. I'm through with ATI
>forever.

well the AIW is in the garbage and I sprung for a GEForce 8500GT

plugged the sucker in and it immediately found and properly identified
and configured not only my Acer 1916W widescreen, but also a 15"
Polaroid flat screen HDTV that I have hooked up as a second monitor.
What amazed me was how it found and identified that Polaroid, even
referring to it by the correct model #. I don't think it was even
turned on at the time.

A sad commentary of the times we live in when you find yourself being
surprised, even amazed that a product actually works as advertised...

never again ATI.. never again.
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"hexHead®" <hexHead DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> well the AIW is in the garbage

Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
without PCI-E).
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody.DeleteThis@nospam.null>
wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
>> well the AIW is in the garbage
>
>Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
>for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
>without PCI-E).
>

I wouldn't do that to somebody...
trust me, it's better off in a landfill.
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"hexHead®" <hexHead.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody.DeleteThis@nospam.null>
> wrote:
>
> >"hexHead®" <hexHead.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
> >news:p5s1q3l95agpeluca4bb4vvrsb9rtsujn7@4ax.com...
> >
> >> well the AIW is in the garbage
> >
> >Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
> >for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
> >without PCI-E).
> >
>
> I wouldn't do that to somebody...
> trust me, it's better off in a landfill.


Would be embarrassing if someone else got it to work?
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:58:49 -0500, "T Shadow"
<blackhole DeleteThis @nowhere.void.com> wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody DeleteThis @nospam.null>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"hexHead®" <hexHead DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>> >news:p5s1q3l95agpeluca4bb4vvrsb9rtsujn7@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >> well the AIW is in the garbage
>> >
>> >Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
>> >for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
>> >without PCI-E).
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't do that to somebody...
>> trust me, it's better off in a landfill.
>
>
>Would be embarrassing if someone else got it to work?

oh i see, you know something the rest of us don't.
care to share mr. wizard?
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:58:49 -0500, "T Shadow"
<blackhole DeleteThis @nowhere.void.com> wrote:

>"hexHead®" <hexHead DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>news:2ae2q35np9em8pu5bk1gmou8k94emf2tnv@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0500, "Mercury" <nobody DeleteThis @nospam.null>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"hexHead®" <hexHead DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>> >news:p5s1q3l95agpeluca4bb4vvrsb9rtsujn7@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >> well the AIW is in the garbage
>> >
>> >Seriously? You could at least offer to send it to someone if they pay you
>> >for the shipping. I'd take it if I had a comp that wasn't a relic (i.e.
>> >without PCI-E).
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't do that to somebody...
>> trust me, it's better off in a landfill.
>
>
>Would be embarrassing if someone else got it to work?


what no reply?
damn, I was anxiously awaiting your step by step procedure to get this
card to work perfectly.
perfectly, hell, I'll settle for working as advertised.
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