No video with new CPU on 8RDA+

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.TakeThisOut@forget_it.com>
wrote:

>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>
>Thanks.
>
>

Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
them just sounds like trouble.
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"Chris Hill" <chill000 DeleteThis @centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil DeleteThis @forget_it.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>
> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
> them just sounds like trouble.
>
>

Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back in,
that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil RemoveThis @forget_it.com>
wrote:

>
>"Chris Hill" <chill000 RemoveThis @centurytel.net> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil RemoveThis @forget_it.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
>>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
>>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
>>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
>>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
>>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
>> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
>> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
>> them just sounds like trouble.
>>
>>
>
>Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back in,
>that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.

Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
isn't good enough.
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"Chris Hill" <chill000 DeleteThis @centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil DeleteThis @forget_it.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Chris Hill" <chill000 DeleteThis @centurytel.net> wrote in message
> >news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil DeleteThis @forget_it.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
Duron
> >>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
have
> >>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
> >>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
> >>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
> >>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
working
> >>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
> >> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
> >> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
> >> them just sounds like trouble.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
in,
> >that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
>
> Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
> isn't good enough.
>

Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM. I'm
sending it back but I'm curious.
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"Lee MacMillan" <lmacmil.DeleteThis@yahoo_X.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Chris Hill" <chill000.DeleteThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:ltob039lgegolarfv7mj222s3k1b2foqj5@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.DeleteThis@forget_it.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Chris Hill" <chill000.DeleteThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> >news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.DeleteThis@forget_it.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
> Duron
>> >>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
> have
>> >>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>> >>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
> BIOS
>> >>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
>> >>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
> working
>> >>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
>> >> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
>> >> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
>> >> them just sounds like trouble.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
> in,
>> >that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
>>
>> Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
>> isn't good enough.
>>
>
> Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
> that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
> very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM.
> I'm
> sending it back but I'm curious.
>
>

Some PSUs, even though they have a high rating may still be marginal. So
for that reason I have to agree with Chris that there still is a slight
chance the PSU might be at fault.

Do you have the latest bios in the 8RDA+ ? If not maybe you should update
it with the Duron and then swap in the Barton.

DaveL
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"dave" <nospam> wrote in message
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> "Lee MacMillan" <lmacmil.RemoveThis@yahoo_X.com> wrote in message
> news:vqednTm8c8q9L5vbnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> > news:ltob039lgegolarfv7mj222s3k1b2foqj5@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
> > Duron
> >> >>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
> > have
> >> >>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so
it's
> >> >>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb
2004
> > BIOS
> >> >>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the
FSB
> >> >>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
> > working
> >> >>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Thanks.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could
have
> >> >> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
> >> >> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
> >> >> them just sounds like trouble.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron
back
> > in,
> >> >that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
> >> isn't good enough.
> >>
> >
> > Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a
chip
> > that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
> > very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM.
> > I'm
> > sending it back but I'm curious.
> >
> >
>
> Some PSUs, even though they have a high rating may still be marginal. So
> for that reason I have to agree with Chris that there still is a slight
> chance the PSU might be at fault.
>
> Do you have the latest bios in the 8RDA+ ? If not maybe you should update
> it with the Duron and then swap in the Barton.
>
> DaveL
>
I have the Feb 2004 BIOS. I think there's one from July 2004. I'm sending
the Barton back. May try an Athlon T-bred at a lower clock speed or may
just leave the Duron alone. It's really all I need on this machine. I'm
just on a minor upgrade kick and I got the Barton cheap.
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:31:57 -0500, "Lee MacMillan"
<lmacmil.RemoveThis@yahoo_X.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>news:ltob039lgegolarfv7mj222s3k1b2foqj5@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>> >news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
>Duron
>> >>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
>have
>> >>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>> >>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
>BIOS
>> >>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
>> >>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
>working
>> >>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could have
>> >> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
>> >> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
>> >> them just sounds like trouble.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
>in,
>> >that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
>>
>> Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
>> isn't good enough.
>>
>
>Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
>that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
>very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM. I'm
>sending it back but I'm curious.

New does not always mean good. Psu's have been major trouble lately;
the I can make it cheaper boys have gotten to them.
>
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"Lee MacMillan" <lmacmil.TakeThisOut@yahoo_X.com> wrote in message
>
> I have the Feb 2004 BIOS. I think there's one from July 2004. I'm
> sending
> the Barton back. May try an Athlon T-bred at a lower clock speed or may
> just leave the Duron alone. It's really all I need on this machine. I'm
> just on a minor upgrade kick and I got the Barton cheap.
>

I have two 8RDA+ machines. Both have T-bred 2100+ chips in them,
overclocked to 2 ghz (2400+) 12 x 166.

DaveL
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"Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:31:57 -0500, "Lee MacMillan"
> <lmacmil.RemoveThis@yahoo_X.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>>news:ltob039lgegolarfv7mj222s3k1b2foqj5@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:35:42 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"Chris Hill" <chill000.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:shta03p9ld7t240116il3g76k25d1k91g5@4ax.com...
>>> >> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:55:02 -0400, "Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz
>>Duron
>>> >>>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I
>>have
>>> >>>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>>> >>>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
>>BIOS
>>> >>>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the
>>> >>>FSB
>>> >>>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was
>>working
>>> >>>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Thanks.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Pull the board out of the case; messing with it in the case could
>>> >> have
>>> >> shorted something. Also, you may wish to try a different power
>>> >> supply. I hate to change cpu's without removing the board, flexing
>>> >> them just sounds like trouble.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Power supply is brand new and when it worked after I put the Duron back
>>in,
>>> >that tells me it's the CPU. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Doesn't tell me that. I'll give it 90%, 10% possibility that the psu
>>> isn't good enough.
>>>
>>
>>Why would a brand new 380 watt power supply not be good enough for a chip
>>that only draws about 10 watts more than the one it replaced? This is a
>>very lightly loaded system, one hard drive, one CD-ROM, 1 stick SDRAM.
>>I'm
>>sending it back but I'm curious.
>
> New does not always mean good. Psu's have been major trouble lately;
> the I can make it cheaper boys have gotten to them.
>>
>
So is there any way to test a power supply other than adding components
until it can't keep up?
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"Lee M." <lmacmil.RemoveThis@forget_it.com> wrote in message
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>I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
>with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
>tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
>clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004 BIOS
>so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
>jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
>fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?

I have a 2500+ overclocked slightly (Bios thinks it's a 2800+) that has been
running very stable in my 8RDA+ for at least 2 years with stock AMD cooling.

So the CPU should work.

Maybe it is the power supply, as suggested.

But also, as you suggested, you could well have a dead chip.

I assume you took all the usual care with the thermal paste, etc.?
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"Brian Rusten" <brusten.TakeThisOut@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Lee M." <lmacmil.TakeThisOut@forget_it.com> wrote in message
> news:6NqdnRmrR7EysJjbnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >I guess I should have left well enough alone. Replaced my 1200mhz Duron
> >with an Athlon 2500+ (Barton core, 333FSB) and now have no video. I have
> >tried two different cards and two monitors and nothing worked so it's
> >clearly related to the chip swap. This a ver 1.1 board with Feb 2004
BIOS
> >so the compatibility charts says this chip should work. I set the FSB
> >jumper to 133/166 and have 1 512MB stick of PC3200 SDRAM that was working
> >fine before the swap. Any ideas guys?
>
> I have a 2500+ overclocked slightly (Bios thinks it's a 2800+) that has
been
> running very stable in my 8RDA+ for at least 2 years with stock AMD
cooling.
>
> So the CPU should work.
>
> Maybe it is the power supply, as suggested.
>
> But also, as you suggested, you could well have a dead chip.
>
> I assume you took all the usual care with the thermal paste, etc.?
>
>
>

Yes. The seller refunded me in full including shipping. I will probably
try one more time with a T-bred rather than the Barton.
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