What's going wrong?

Just a wildshot really. But the power-supply might be the weak link as you
have a videocard that likes drawing alot of current. Also make sure the
timings on your ram are not high. The temperatures could also be a problem.

Dan
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

run memtest on the ram and see if it is faulty..make sure you have the ram
in the correct slots. The E board is very fussy on memory too..if you were "
specially" choosing parts you would have bought anything but generic ram..it
could prove to be the issue..or a week PSU as was said.

here is a good place to research it yourself.

http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=4ff303070fbcd7b...df6f598
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

"dino" <whyme DeleteThis @help.com> wrote in message news:<jAySd.17095$Am3.526152@news20.bellglobal.com>...
 > run memtest on the ram and see if it is faulty..make sure you have the ram
 > in the correct slots. The E board is very fussy on memory too..if you were "
 > specially" choosing parts you would have bought anything but generic ram..it
 > could prove to be the issue..or a week PSU as was said.
 >
 > here is a good place to research it yourself.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=4ff303070fbcd7be0fdf6f5982740e93</font" target="_blank">http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=4ff303070fbcd7b...df6f598</a>>

Cheers Guys.
Well, Asus Probe tells me my CPU is about 40-degrees celsius with an
idle load. Im sure the heatsink has a good contact with CPU because I
was very thorough when fitting.

Dino, you're right about generic RAM not being specialised, but at the
time of purchase I was only aiming to make a 200mhz bus system and
thought standard PC3200 would work :/
I think Im using slots 1&3 for dual data rate. I ran MEM test last
night for 1 pass (30 mins) and no errors showed.

I keep my RAM bios settings at 'optimal'. I know nothing about these -
what should they be for something like a 200x11(2,200mhz) system?

As for the PSU, do you think my non-branded 350watt unit will be
causing problems - is there any way to tell? What would be a suitable
upgrade? - and remember Im on a budget!

Thanks again.

BENJ
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 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

Sparkle PSU's are rated very good for an inexpensive one..I also am running
the CPU on Optimal..make sure CPU and AGP spread spectrum are disabled. To
maybe go higher trying backing off the memory timings..set it manually. I
learned by playing and reading. Am getting rid of my OCZ ram and have
corsair XL coming in hopes of breaking 220 mhz. I should just upgrade to go
faster but I have too much invested in this setup just to give it to my
kids. there is also a ton of information at Nforce on this stuff...for my
rev2.0..I just reinstalled the trats BIOS 1008mod3 to gain some extra
settings.
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

have swapped out my OCZ PC3200EL Gold with Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2PT. I
think going to fully matched sticks made the difference. I had 3x256 of OCZ
but had some issues...none of the timings seemed to match according to
Aida32. Now I am running stable but can't beat the 205 mhz mark..but I think
I am at the limits of the CPU. Am running 347 mhz OC'd with good timings on
my ram. So start playing with the voltages...slack off timings..find out
what make of RAM you have and hope for best.

http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?pid=1&lang=en&pageid=3

download the ZIP version and it is a stand alone program...might help you
out.

here is my setup
A7N8X-Deluxe rev 2.0
Barton 2500..200x11.1.70v
Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2PT
ATI 9600XT
SB Audigy 2ZS
Enermax 465FM PSU
TT Volcano11+
Chenming601AE with 5 Purple LED fans+1 EL purple wire
2x120 Max SATA RAID0
2x30gig Max.(1 storage,1 2nd boot drive XP)
1 Lite-On DVD-RW...1 Mitsumi CDRW
Dual booting XP Pro..1 strictly business and burning...other everyday and
gaming
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

"dino" <whyme.TakeThisOut@help.com> wrote in message news:<CRyTd.47360$Am3.1469206@news20.bellglobal.com>...
 > have swapped out my OCZ PC3200EL Gold with Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2PT. I
 > think going to fully matched sticks made the difference. I had 3x256 of OCZ
 > but had some issues...none of the timings seemed to match according to
 > Aida32. Now I am running stable but can't beat the 205 mhz mark..but I think
 > I am at the limits of the CPU. Am running 347 mhz OC'd with good timings on
 > my ram. So start playing with the voltages...slack off timings..find out
 > what make of RAM you have and hope for best.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?pid=1&lang=en&pageid=3</font" target="_blank">http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?pid=1&lang=en&pageid=3</font</a>>
 >
 > download the ZIP version and it is a stand alone program...might help you
 > out.
 >
 > here is my setup
 > A7N8X-Deluxe rev 2.0
 > Barton 2500..200x11.1.70v
 > Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2PT
 > ATI 9600XT
 > SB Audigy 2ZS
 > Enermax 465FM PSU
 > TT Volcano11+
 > Chenming601AE with 5 Purple LED fans+1 EL purple wire
 > 2x120 Max SATA RAID0
 > 2x30gig Max.(1 storage,1 2nd boot drive XP)
 > 1 Lite-On DVD-RW...1 Mitsumi CDRW
 > Dual booting XP Pro..1 strictly business and burning...other everyday and
 > gaming


Thanks for the links, dino - Im going to read up from the nforcershq
website and try overclocking with a new passion!

When you say "..slack off timings.." of your RAM, what timings have
you got in mind? And is it safe to increase the RAM Voltage?

Might try to work out my systems power usage, and replace the PSU as a
last resort. Is this worth doing?

Cheers
BENJ
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 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

for me..my memory is rated at 2-3-3-6...I manually set my timings to
7-3-3-2.5..that is the order they show in BIOS. But having generic ram it is
hard to say what the timings are for you. That is why I sent you the link
for Everest Aida32..it should be able to tell you. My V-core is set at 1.70V
and my DDR ia at 2.7v.
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

now am running at 10.5 x 215..v-core is 1.750...ddr at 2.7..memory timings
are still at same level...my OCZ mem that came out of this system is in my
my kids A7n8X-x with a Barton 2500 running at 200x11 with timings if
2.5-3-3-6..both passed memtest and Prime 95
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

Just a thought....

Hi,
Just a statement.......overclocking is not a guarantee, not ALL chips will
overclock, I got my Barton core 2500+ running at 3200+ speeds (fsb is @ 200)
but, I did not EXPECT it to do that.....I hoped it would as most do, but as
I said no guarantees! Have you tried a different chip just to make sure that
it is not your CPU that will not accept the faster speeds?
Good Luck,
Bitsbucket

"benj" <ben.warren RemoveThis @dstintl.com> wrote in message
news:17594d6b.0502210744.2ebc5f10@posting.google.com...
 > Hi all,
 >
 > I can't manage to get my XP-M2500+ processor running at more than 200
 > x 9.5 =1900mhz!
 >
 > I have built my PC out of specially chosen components so I can
 > overclock the processor 'to over XP3200 speeds'. As you can imagine
 > I'm getting frustrated with this situation. The PC just doesn't boot
 > with any higher settings. Hopefully theres a simple solution that
 > somebody is able to reveal to me!
 >
 > In A7n8X-e chipset settings, I have fiddled with core voltage, bus
 > speed and multiplier - but don't understand what the other settings
 > mean and so I leave them alone :/
 >
 > (I have had 166 x 13 =2,158mhz however I want to have a 200mhz bus to
 > make the most of my RAM!)
 >
 > System:
 > XP-M2500+
 > Asus A7n8X-e deluxe
 > 2x 512mb generic PC3200
 > Zalman 6000
 > Radeon 9800pro
 > 350watt standard power supply (used from older PC).
 >
 >
 > Thx for any help!!
 > BSW<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

Try a differnt CPU .... just to make sure that it is the CPU and not your
setup....I would offer you mine to test with as I know it runs fine at 200
MHz FSB that gives me 3200+ speeds, the Bios even reports the processor as
an Athlon 3200+ CPU at bootup....but then I would have no computer
Let me know if I can help as I have been an avid AMD overclocker since the
old 486 days..........
L8r
Bitsbucket



"Bitsbucket" <userofthenet RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110464791.fa0c9590a2f58ca882c96f19ba600aae@teranews...
 > Just a thought....
 >
 > Hi,
 > Just a statement.......overclocking is not a guarantee, not ALL chips will
 > overclock, I got my Barton core 2500+ running at 3200+ speeds (fsb is @
 > 200)
 > but, I did not EXPECT it to do that.....I hoped it would as most do, but
 > as
 > I said no guarantees! Have you tried a different chip just to make sure
 > that
 > it is not your CPU that will not accept the faster speeds?
 > Good Luck,
 > Bitsbucket
 >
 > "benj" <ben.warren RemoveThis @dstintl.com> wrote in message
 > news:17594d6b.0502210744.2ebc5f10@posting.google.com...
  >> Hi all,
  >>
  >> I can't manage to get my XP-M2500+ processor running at more than 200
  >> x 9.5 =1900mhz!
  >>
  >> I have built my PC out of specially chosen components so I can
  >> overclock the processor 'to over XP3200 speeds'. As you can imagine
  >> I'm getting frustrated with this situation. The PC just doesn't boot
  >> with any higher settings. Hopefully theres a simple solution that
  >> somebody is able to reveal to me!
  >>
  >> In A7n8X-e chipset settings, I have fiddled with core voltage, bus
  >> speed and multiplier - but don't understand what the other settings
  >> mean and so I leave them alone :/
  >>
  >> (I have had 166 x 13 =2,158mhz however I want to have a 200mhz bus to
  >> make the most of my RAM!)
  >>
  >> System:
  >> XP-M2500+
  >> Asus A7n8X-e deluxe
  >> 2x 512mb generic PC3200
  >> Zalman 6000
  >> Radeon 9800pro
  >> 350watt standard power supply (used from older PC).
  >>
  >>
  >> Thx for any help!!
  >> BSW
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

with my Barton 2500, A7N8X-Dx rev2.0, Corsair twinx 1024C2PT..I finally
managed to reach 220 mhz..memtest and prime95 both pass..so am running at
220x10..performance is way better than 200x11..but my CPU seems to be
limited...can not pass 2250mhz..but still a good OC.Memory timings are
2.5,3,3,7
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

"dino" <whyme DeleteThis @help.com> wrote in message news:<kj2Yd.25571$fW4.756749@news20.bellglobal.com>...
 > with my Barton 2500, A7N8X-Dx rev2.0, Corsair twinx 1024C2PT..I finally
 > managed to reach 220 mhz..memtest and prime95 both pass..so am running at
 > 220x10..performance is way better than 200x11..but my CPU seems to be
 > limited...can not pass 2250mhz..but still a good OC.Memory timings are
 > 2.5,3,3,7


Hi all,

Thanks for your input - especially the offer of the trial CPU,
Bitsbucket

I have taken advice and bought a new 450watt PSU, and will install
tonight!
The label on my old, existing, 350watt PSU states that there is only
12A on the 12v rail... is this bad? My new one states 20A!

Would this low ampage be the cause of the the system failing to boot
when increasing FSB speed to 200mhz?

Im hoping this should help my system loads, as I've read about better
3DMark benchmarks with increased wattage power supplies.

In case anybodys interested, its just an unbranded unit but does come
with 1 x 120mm fan, so am expecting quiet results. Cost £30 from a
components retailer in London. (I know, I know, but they didn't have
much else available in my budget!)

Will give you an update when all is installed and tested. From now on
I *hope* to achieve better performance, not *expect*

bye 4 now

BENJ
~~~~
XP-M2500+
Asus A7n8X-e deluxe
2x 512mb generic PC3200
Zalman CU6000
Radeon 9800pro
WD 160GB SATA HD
350w PSU (to be upgraded tonight).
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 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong? 

my PSU is an Enermax 465...it has 33Amps on the 12 volt rail..low amperage
can cause all kinds of wierd things to happen..so it might be part of the
issue.
 >> Stay informed about: What's going wrong?